There are two kinds of suffering. Most so called suffering, e.g. most emotional 'pain', is illusory as it simply depends on how one reacts to something and that can be let go of. Physical pain of say cancer is different, it can't be avoided. But one must remember you are not your pain just as you are not your pleasure. Either can come or go and consciousness still exists. Pain is a content of consciousness, one of many. One should hopefully concentrate on the consciousness itself and not the individual contents and not let something like pain divert the mind from the Zen of consciousness itself. That is the best one can do, to ignore the pain and focus on the consciousness itself. That is the true bravery of Zen which goes straight ahead on the path and disregards death and doesn't let consciousness get lost in suffering.


On Oct 5, 2008, at 9:12 AM, Anthony Wu wrote:

I would like to come back to Al's profound question. The thread he started is getting long and branching out. Can you simply say 'this is it?' How do you react to pain? A famous zen master Daisetsu Suzuki went through a lot of suffering in his last days. I am scared to think about that. If he cannot avoid suffering, how can I? How about you all? Are you sure you will leave this world peacefully?


--- On Sat, 4/10/08, Al <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Subject: [Zen] Aging and Zen
Date: Saturday, 4 October, 2008, 2:14 AM

As we all get older, and some of us are a lot older, the question for
me now is this: Does Zen give you everything you want? Are you willing
to die sitting on a cushion just saying "this is it?" No Heaven for
you? No Nirvana? No nothing? Just worms??

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