Anthony,

Actually a lot of people expect me to answer to them.  Sometimes I do, 
sometimes I don't, but I don't feel obligated to do so.

And I didn't say I always do the second group of actions (would that I did); I 
said I don't do any of the first group.  I don't know why I don't do any of 
them, nor do I even want to do any of them.  I like to think it has to do with 
zazen, but it probably also has a lot to do with my upbringing and my current 
situation which does not impose many pressures on me to take advantage of 
others or conform with such behavior in others.

Now, I've answered a lot of your questions in recent posts.  Please answer one 
of mine from my previous post:

" Why do you (and Al) have to have someone or something else tell you what to 
do and be answerable to?"

Thanks...Bill!

From: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com [mailto:zen_fo...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Anthony Wu
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 10:02 PM
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Zen] Re: The Reason For God

Bill,
 
Nobody asks you to answer to them. If you always do the second group of 
actions, that is great. Can you tell me the secret why you are not tempted to 
switch to the first group once in a while?
 
Anthony

--- On Fri, 16/1/09, billsm...@hhs1963.org <billsm...@hhs1963.org> wrote:
From: billsm...@hhs1963.org <billsm...@hhs1963.org>
Subject: RE: [Zen] Re: The Reason For God
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, 16 January, 2009, 5:52 PM
Anthony,

I believe the everything is haphazard (chaos - the original meaning) and we all 
are free to kill, rob, rape, drink and burn without - fear of retribution. We 
are also free to give alms, comfort and love, refrain from intoxicants and 
create wonders - without hope of reward.

I don't do any of the first group and do a lot of the second group, all without 
having to answer to anyone. Why can't you?

Why do you (and Al) have to have someone or something else tell you what to do 
and be answerable to? Don't you trust yourself?

...Bill!

From: zen_fo...@yahoogrou ps.com [mailto:zen_fo...@yahoogrou ps.com] On Behalf 
Of Anthony Wu
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 11:24 AM
To: zen_fo...@yahoogrou ps.com
Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: The Reason For God

Chris,

There are strict rules governing material world, down to subatomic particles. I 
tend to believe the same applies to the spiritual world. It is not convincing 
that a personal god can set the rules. So the best theory is still with karma 
objectively. The problem is we only remember this one life. For karma to work 
out we need to go through more than one life. In other words, karma and rebirth 
go together. Otherwise, everything is haphazard, so we are free to kill, rob, 
rape, drink and burn.

Anthony



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