Hi Anthony,

My Master always reminds us that "words are not important." When our practice gets there, we will experience. When our practice is not there, there is nothing to know or understand.


As Bill and Mayka continue to stress, sit down and experience.

:-)

Be Enlightened In This Life - We ALL Can
http://chanjmjm.blogspot.com
http://www.heartchan.org


On 10/26/2010 12:56 AM, Anthony Wu wrote:

JM,
I am not going to pick up any other books. My question is about the words by your Chan Master.
Anthony

--- On *Tue, 26/10/10, Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明 /<chan.j...@gmail.com>/* wrote:


    From: Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明 <chan.j...@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: [Zen] Fwd: "The Gateway to Chan Wisdom" - II
    To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
    Date: Tuesday, 26 October, 2010, 7:30 AM

    Hi Anthony,

    One of our practitioner just informed me that Michael Newton's
    book "Journey of Souls" says the same thing.

    Perhaps you can pick up that book that tell me about. :-)

    Be Enlightened In This Life - We ALL Can
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    http://www.heartchan.org  <http://www.heartchan.org/>


    On 10/25/2010 2:15 PM, Anthony Wu wrote:
    JMJM<
    The Chan Master does not make it clear. Does consciousness exist?
    Moreover, when you have no hindrances before death and you skip
    reincarnation, then what do you do? Where are you?
    Anthony

    --- On *Mon, 25/10/10, Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明
    /<chan.j...@gmail.com>
    <http://sg.mc761.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=chan.j...@gmail.com>/*
    wrote:


        From: Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明 <chan.j...@gmail.com>
        <http://sg.mc761.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=chan.j...@gmail.com>
        Subject: [Zen] Fwd: "The Gateway to Chan Wisdom" - II
        To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
        <http://sg.mc761.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=zen_fo...@yahoogroups.com>
        Date: Monday, 25 October, 2010, 9:02 AM

        FYI...

        -------- Original Message --------

        Abridged from "The Gateway to Chan Wisdom" by Chan Master Wu
        Jue Miao-tian
        Translated by Zhenyao
        Edited by Eng

        智慧禪門II

        佛教上講到「輪迴」,這個輪迴就是因為神識 的存在,如果沒有神識
        的存在,就超越了輪 迴,所 以神識是決定輪迴的最主要因素。換句
        話說,一個人在生命的最後
        一口氣時,你的心裡沒有罣礙,死得很自在, 就不受輪迴,很多事情
        放不下,你就沒有辦法 解 脫,就要被輪迴的命運。

        神識就是死後的靈魂,我們人身本來會發光, 就是因為神識包住,像
        太陽光被雲遮住時看不 到祂 的光,在人往生時,依神識的境地就淪
        落到那一個未可知的地方。
        超越了潛在意識進入第八意識光明藏,就可以 看到自己自性的光,這
        個光不在外面,在裡 面,這 個光它是生命的光、智慧的光,這種光
        充滿了超能力,比人的頭腦
        和一般人所知道的力量要大上好幾十倍,很不 可思議的力量。

        修禪的最終目的是找 到自己心靈的光,這個心靈的光來自於大宇宙的
        生命體,一切生命的來源,那才是本來的自己。 人要得到智慧,就必
        需由禪定入門,佛教三學
        「戒、定、慧」先要修戒、修善法,然後禪 定,最後修般若智慧。在
        座的很多未來的科學 家,參 禪以後可以幫助大家將自己所學的發揚
        光大,所學的理論可以得到
        證明。禪就是自證,看聖經、研究佛經,這是 修的功夫,修還不夠,
        還要證。
        想要認識「我」,要超我才能認識「我」,就 像一個人在山中看不到
        山的外貌一樣,你必須 離開 那座山遠遠的,才看得清楚那座山的全
        貌,所以你一定要經過禪定
        的功夫,禪定以後離開現在意識。

        要認識「我」就要進入禪定,入禪定是要經過 訓練的,譬如一個人在
        禪坐,他坐單盤可以坐 一個 鐘頭,坐雙盤只能坐二十分鐘,坐雙盤
        雖然 是二十分鐘,可是這二
        十分鐘比一個鐘頭的效果還好,為什麼?因為 他加強了突破身體障礙
        的耐力。同樣地,雙盤 坐一 個月是單盤坐兩個月的效果。

        現在企業界很流行所謂的「企業禪」,就是訓 練他達到超人的耐力、
        超人的體力,讓他能夠 超越 自己。在超越別人之前先要超越自己,
        超越自己原來的本能,然後
        自然能夠超越別人,才能夠有更廣大的開創, 事業才能更成功,學識
        的研究才能更徹底。最 後告 訴大家,要經過智慧禪門,才能夠得到
        無限智慧,同時你有了智慧
        以後,也才能夠順利進到「智慧禪門」。

        Abridged from "The Gateway to Chan Wisdom" by Chan Master Wu
        Jue Miao-tian
        Translated by Zhenyao
        Edited by Eng

        Buddhism talks about “reincarnation”. The cause of
        reincarnation is the existence of consciousness. If
        consciousness does not exist, we
        transcend the cycles of reincarnation. Thus consciousness is
        the most important factor affecting reincarnation. In other
        words, at the last
        moment of a person's life, if there are no hindrances left
        unresolved in the heart, then death will be comfortable and
        smooth while
        reincarnation becomes unnecessary. If there are many concerns
        remain with the dying person, then there will be no
        liberation, and
        reincarnate will continue to be the fate.

        Pure consciousness is the soul after death. Originally, human
        bodies were luminous. However, they are covered by our
        consciousness, just
        like clouds covering the sunlight. After death, we will end
        up in an unknown space according to our consciousness. When
        we go beyond our
        sub-consciousness, we enter the realm of the Eighth
        Consciousness (Alaya Consciousness), and then we witness the
        light of our self-
        nature. This light is not outside of us. It is inside. It's
        the light of life and wisdom, and the light is full of
        supernatural
        powers. Its powers are tens of times more powerful than that
        of the human brain or any power we know of. Such powers are
        beyond
        imagination.

        The ultimate goal of Chan practice is to find the spiritual
        light of our hearts. That is the true self. Such light comes
        from the life
        force of the universe, and it is the origin of all lives. To
        gain wisdom, a person needs to start from Chan meditation.
        The threefold
        training of Buddhism includes "discipline, meditation (Ding),
        and wisdom.” Discipline is the entry point of Chan practice
        followed by
        mediation, and finally wisdom. Many of you will become
        scientists.

        Chan practice will enhance what you have learned, and it will
        help to prove theories you have studied. Chan practice is
        about witnessing
        your own experience. Reading the Bible or studying Buddhist
        scriptures is only one aspect of religious practice. But it's
        not sufficient
        without witnessing for yourself.

        In order to understand "self", we must transcend ourselves.
        It’s like a person in a mountain who cannot see the entire
        mountain. In order
        to see the entire mountain, the person must observe it from a
        distance. Similarly, you have to go through the process of
        meditation
        to enter a deep meditative state of Chan Ding, and become
        devoid of all mental activities.
        Looking back, recognizing the "self" requires that we enter a
        meditative state, and we need to go through training for
        that. For
        example, when we meditate, we could sit an hour in the
        half-lotus posture, or we could sit twenty minutes in the
        full-lotus posture.
        However, the twenty-minute session is more effective than the
        one-hour session. Why? That’s because we enhance our ability
        to break through
        physical barriers in a full-lotus posture. Similarly,
        one-month of meditation in a full lotus posture has the same
        effect as two months
        of meditation in a half lotus posture.
        Now in the business community the so-called "Chan Enterprise"
        is gaining popularity, much like the “devil’s training" in
        Japan, i.e.,
        to train a person to achieve super endurance and super
        strength in order to enable a person to transcend his/her own
        limitations. To
        surpass others, we first have to surpass our instincts. Then
        naturally we will be able to surpass others to attain a
        fuller life,
        to be more successful in our careers, and to study and
        research more thoroughly. Finally I want to share with you
        that we have to go
        through “The Gateway to Chan Wisdom” to be able to have
        access to unlimited wisdom, and to successfully gain wisdom.




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