Bill,
 
So you still observe physical law, despite you calling it illusion.
 
Anthony

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From: billsm...@hhs1963.org <billsm...@hhs1963.org>
Subject: RE: [Zen] Zen, Self, I, Me and Mine
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, 26 October, 2010, 10:42 PM


  





Anthony,
 
No, I wouldn’t drink freshly brewed coffee immediately.  I’d put cream in it 
first…Bill!
 



From: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com [mailto:zen_fo...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Anthony Wu
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 4:21 AM
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Zen] Zen, Self, I, Me and Mine
 
  








Bill,

 

I know. Everything is illusory for you. That would be excellent. When you make 
your coffee with newly boiled water. It is also illusory. Would you drink it 
immediately?

 

Anthony

--- On Mon, 25/10/10, billsm...@hhs1963.org <billsm...@hhs1963.org> wrote:


From: billsm...@hhs1963.org <billsm...@hhs1963.org>
Subject: RE: [Zen] Zen, Self, I, Me and Mine
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, 25 October, 2010, 10:31 AM

  


Ed and Anthony,

Karma is illusory. I’ve written many posts about this in the past so I won’t go 
into all that here.

If you are a Catholic and have faith in the priest, you can indeed receive 
absolution from interaction with a pedophilic priest. The absolution is not an 
action that takes place between you and the priest. It is an action that takes 
place between you and God.

That is if you are Catholic.

…Bill!

From: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com [mailto:zen_fo...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Anthony Wu
Sent: Monday, October 25, 2010 4:07 AM
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Zen] Zen, Self, I, Me and Mine

No, in Buddhism, karma is your action. Like in Newton's laws, once an action is 
done, there is certainly a reaction coming. You cannot 'surpass' your karma by 
sitting chan. If that was true, why not take an easier way of going to church 
and ask a pedophilic priest to absolve you?

Anthony

--- On Mon, 25/10/10, ED <seacrofter...@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: ED <seacrofter...@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Zen] Zen, Self, I, Me and Mine
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, 25 October, 2010, 3:53 AM


Hi JMJM,
What is meant by the high-lighted sentence below? Is it a teaching of the 
Buddha?
--ED

--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Jue Miao Jing Ming wrote:
>
Hi Ed,

That's a description most valuable to the author. 

What we teach is, through Sitting Chan, as we gradually surpass the three 
karmic hindrances -- body, mind and spirit -- then we can witness or experience 
ourselves.

Perhaps you have heard the statement about Chan, "It simply could not be 
described?"

:-) 
Be Enlightened In This Life - We ALL Can
http://chanjmjm.blogspot.com
http://www.heartchan.org

JMJM,
Like this: http://www.ahastories.com/whenwillibelivin.html ?
--ED 

--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Jue Miao Jing Ming wrote:
>
> Hi Ed,
> 
> Thank you. However, if I may point out...
> 
> Every path is a path. Xin Xin Ming stated well...
> 
> "The way is not hard, if we don't pick or choose.."
> 
> Just live and die as is...
> 
> :-)
> 
> Be Enlightened In This Life - We ALL Can
> http://chanjmjm.blogspot.com
> http://www.heartchan.org

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