Ed,

Your question: "What on earth is not an illusion?" is what zen is all about!

All thoughts and concepts of the discriminating mind (the rational mind that
creates dualisms such as self/other, subject/object and makes judgments such
as good/bad, right/wrong) are illusions.

Only direct experience is not illusory.  'Direct' means before the
experience goes through the discriminating mind and gets processed there
(filtered, augmented, named, categorized, assigned a value, etc...).   Zen
Buddhism calls this 'Buddha Mind' or 'Buddha Nature'.  Joshu called it 'Mu'
and 'The Oak Tree in the Garden'. Ummon called it 'A Dried Shit-Stick'.
Gutei just held up his index finger. I call it 'Just THIS!'.

So I now ask you: What is Buddha?

...Bill!

From: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com [mailto:zen_fo...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of ED
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To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Zen] Zen, Self, I, Me and Mine

  

Bill,
What on earth is not an illusion?
Thanks, 
--ED
 
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, <billsm...@...> wrote:
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> Anthony,
> 
> Physical laws are illusions, but the phenomena (experience) which they
attempt to describe cannot be ignored.
> 
> See the koan 'Hyakujo and the Fox', Case 2 - THE GATELESS GATE collection.
> 
> ...Bill!
 



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