--- In [email protected], Maria Lopez <flordel...@...> wrote:

> Thanks for clarification Chris. Definetely in that respect all in me
too is a massive illusion. --M

M, is that how you actually experience yourself or is it a conception or
an act of faith?  --E

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> I meant my idea of myself, especially as having some spiritual
significance, is not reality.  --C

Conceptions are just conceptions, conjured up by the discursive mind.
One would be deluded to *believe* them to be 'true' or 'not true'.   --E

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> I'm not an illusion.  The only thing that is an illusion is the
nonsense in me.  --M

Do you *really* experience the nonsense in you as 'illusory'? What about
the good in you? Is it illusory too?   --E


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> Aren't we all!  --C

We may or may not experience ourselves and/or others as illusory.

For the over 99.9999%, stating that they themselves or others are
illusory are acts of faith.  --E

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> Bill Smart himself is also an illusion. Don't atttach any spiritual
significant.  --A

Wouldn't it be illusory to *believe* you if we didn't experience Bill
that way?  --E

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