I'm not an illusion. The only thing that is an illusion is the nonsense in me.
--- On Thu, 4/11/10, ChrisAustinLane <ch...@austin-lane.net> wrote: From: ChrisAustinLane <ch...@austin-lane.net> Subject: Re: [Zen] Questions, questions, question To: "Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com" <Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com> Cc: "Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com" <Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com> Date: Thursday, 4 November, 2010, 0:09 Aren't we all! Thanks, Chris Austin-Lane Sent from a cell phone On Nov 3, 2010, at 16:17, Anthony Wu <wu...@yahoo.com.sg> wrote: Bill Smart himself is also an illusion. Don't atttach any spiritual significant. Anthony --- On Wed, 3/11/10, billsm...@hhs1963.org <billsm...@hhs1963.org> wrote: From: billsm...@hhs1963.org <billsm...@hhs1963.org> Subject: RE: [Zen] Questions, questions, question To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, 3 November, 2010, 12:34 PM Ed, My comments are embedded below: [Ed] Questions, as usual, to ask oneself concening 'experience', with a view to clarify its meaning: Can the following be classified as kosher/halal experiences? o A pentecostal Christian who has had a born-again experience? [Bill!] My opinion is that being born-again in the Christian context is not an experience, it is an illusion. o Tony Blair's sister-in-law who recently reported a transcendental experience in Qum, Iran - and converted to Islam? [Bill!] Again, this is not an experience, this is an illusion. o A Jewish woman whom I encountered in a group some years ago, who had a mystical experience of Allah and converted to Islam? [Bill!] An illusion. [Bill!] Viewing a sunset is an experience. Feeling warm rain fall on your face is an experience. Hearing birds sing is an experience. Tasting a peach is an experience. Smelling a dead dog rotting on the highway is an experience. The placing of any significance other than Just THIS! on the viewing, feeling, hearing, tasting or smelling of any of these things is creating illusions - and this certainly includes believing that any of these have a spiritual significance. ...Bill! __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5586 (20101102) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com