A stink by any name is still a stink, unpleasant to those who have not reined in their aversions. OTOH, in some religious/spiritual traditions, everything is God. --ED --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, <billsm...@...> wrote: > Ed, Since this is an e-forum I guess it would be more correctly called e-stink...Bill! Bill, "Stage seven is the glow in which you are radiating yourself as truth. You will feel totally in contact with yourself, and your presence will radiate from you like a glow. This will continue until you have fully presented yourself to others. The Zen people refer to this as "the Zen stink". See: http://www.godening.com/FAQ.htm <http://www.godening.com/FAQ.htm> Surely not stage seven already? ;-) ;-) ;-) Aromatically and thornily yours, --ED > Mayka, > > Oh yes! And Ed has quite an aroma also. But those are just the things you have to put up with if you're going to catch a baby tiger ¦Bill!