JMJM.
I lived in Berkeley/Rockridge from 1984-1995...Bill!
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Zen_Forum%40yahoogroups.com>,
Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明 <chan.jmjm@...> wrote:
>
> Hello Mayka,
>
> I completely agree. I said alone because you said, "... no one but Mel
> responded."
>
> I was in Berkeley 1967 - 1972. A true hippie. Well??
>
> Be Enlightened In This Life - We ALL Can
> http://chanjmjm.blogspot.com
> http://www.heartchan.org
>
>
> On 2/24/2011 12:32 PM, Maria Lopez wrote:
> >
> > /JMJM;/
> > //
> > /The written style of your response sounded as kind of hippie from
the
> > sixties. /
> > //
> > /You have misunderstand my posting. I was only making a point and
> > that was that in forums samsara have a greater power than actually
the
> > real dharma. That's all what I meant. . Posting addressed wasn't
> > about feeling alone or something like that. But about how easy we are
> > lead to samsara and how little is the strenght of the practice in the
> > forum. I have no expectations of anyone given a response to my mail
> > at all. What it meant was that is much easy to be dragged down by
> > intellectual and samsara stronger energy in the forum rather than
from
> > the energy of the practice because there is no much of that in the
> > forum. That's all what I meant. It was just merely a reflexion badly
> > expressed obviously. /
> > //
> > /Thank you for good intentions ./
> > /Mayka/
> >
> > --- On *Thu, 24/2/11, Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明
> > /<chan.jmjm@...>/* wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明 <chan.jmjm@...>
> > Subject: Re: [Zen] Can A Buddha Harm Others?(to ED/Mayka/list)
> > To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Zen_Forum%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Date: Thursday, 24 February, 2011, 15:52
> >
> > Mayka Dear,
> >
> > Please don't feel that you are alone. Many of us on the forum are
> > with you.
> >
> > I am sure those on the forum who meditates "connect" with you. I
> > am also somewhat certain those who do not, probably do not. Steve
> > already posted something like, "... there are those wanted to show
> > that they are right..."
> >
> > As you know, that's what delusion is.
> >
> > Harvey already said, "zen teachers can not be nice, need to talk
> > like a blade." On the other hand, he also said, that we must drip
> > instead of poring water over dry land. That's when as suggested
> > by my teacher, "we need wisdom in our journey to accompany
> > compassion."
> >
> > It's time for me to support Mel's post a little in my next post.
> >
> > :-)
> >
> > Be Enlightened In This Life - We ALL Can
> > http://chanjmjm.blogspot.com <http://chanjmjm.blogspot.com/>
> > http://www.heartchan.org <http://www.heartchan.org/>
> >
> >
> > On 2/24/2011 7:30 AM, Maria Lopez wrote:
> >> /Mel:/
> >> //
> >> /Thank you for the kindness of your comments. Just a shame that
> >> I went a little bit too much emotional over the rape subject
> >> and went entangled on myself emotions and talking non sense. It
> >> only comes to show how easy is to loose oneself in samsara and
> >> that the difficulties of participating in forums. /
> >> //
> >> /The first initial post you mention is a post coming from the
> >> practice and yet and no one except from yourself have said a word
> >> about it. But as soon as I said things such as: "Take justice
> >> in one's hand and cut the sexual organs of a rapist", it's
> >> incredible the attention I got!. It only comes to show that the
> >> strenght of this forum is not in our practice./
> >> //
> >> /Thanks for your response and appreciation/
> >> /Mayka/
> >> --- On *Thu, 24/2/11, Mel /<gunnar19632000@...>
> >> <http://uk.mc862.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=gunnar19632000@...>/*
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> From: Mel <gunnar19632000@...>
> >> <http://uk.mc862.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=gunnar19632000@...>
> >> Subject: [Zen] Can A Buddha Harm Others?(to ED/Mayka/list)
> >> To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Zen_Forum%40yahoogroups.com>
> >>
<http://uk.mc862.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com>
> >> Date: Thursday, 24 February, 2011, 13:12
> >>
> >> It is impossible to force change on anyone, ED. However,
> >> please do understand that I wouldn't have been the first, nor
> >> will I be the last to take note of openly dualistic postings
> >> from those outside of the path, and those who aspire to the
> >> Zen way of life itself are bound to notice such posts
> >> eventually. For better or worse, you may hear or read things
> >> you don't want to hear, or read about. That's just the way it
> >> is. That's the bad news, but the good news is that you're
> >> probably keeping the group alive by your very words of what
> >> must be quite extensive knowledge about many things...odd as
> >> they may be to some of us. Read Mayka's first reply to
> >> Steve's posting concerning this current thread. It's quite
> >> eye-opening. Nothing academic...just simple,
> >> clear-headeness..possible dualistic translation: BIG MIND
> >> Just as they have self-confessed atheists and other 'sinners'
> >> in biblical forums...we on the other hand have academics like
> >> yourself who wish to work out Zen without the experience.
> >> That's all well and good if that suits you. As I said ED,
> >> nobody can force change on you, and if that bothers them(you
> >> can include me on that list if I'm guilty), then they
> >> themselves are breaking faith with the old prince himself,
> >> and what he aspired to and taught
> >> Buddha be praised
> >> Mel
> >>
> >> --- On *Thu, 24/2/11, ED /<seacrofter001@...>
> >> <http://uk.mc862.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=seacrofter001@...>/*
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> From: ED <seacrofter001@...>
> >> <http://uk.mc862.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=seacrofter001@...>
> >> Subject: Re: [Zen] Can A Buddha Harm Others?
> >> To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Zen_Forum%40yahoogroups.com>
> >>
<http://uk.mc862.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com>
> >> Received: Thursday, 24 February, 2011, 1:31 AM
> >>
> >>
> >> Hello Mel,
> >> Are you possessed by an irresistible need to have me
> >> change my ways to make you happy? ;-)
> >> Best regards,
> >> --ED
> >> --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Zen_Forum%40yahoogroups.com>
> >>
<http://uk.mc862.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com>,
> >> Mel <gunnar19632000@>
> >> <http://uk.mc862.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=gunnar19632000@>
> >> wrote:
> >> >
> >> MEL: Yes, but the words DELIBERATE and INTENTIONAL are
> >> open to interpretation
> >> (..ED, no need to post quotes from the dictionary or
> >> Wikipedia. I am interested only in experiences, not
> >> academic discussions..)
> >>
> >>
> >
>
