Mayka Dear,

Please don't feel that you are alone. Many of us on the forum are with you.

I am sure those on the forum who meditates "connect" with you. I am also somewhat certain those who do not, probably do not. Steve already posted something like, "... there are those wanted to show that they are right..."

As you know, that's what delusion is.

Harvey already said, "zen teachers can not be nice, need to talk like a blade." On the other hand, he also said, that we must drip instead of poring water over dry land. That's when as suggested by my teacher, "we need wisdom in our journey to accompany compassion."

It's time for me to support Mel's post a little in my next post.

:-)

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On 2/24/2011 7:30 AM, Maria Lopez wrote:

/Mel:/
//
/Thank you for the kindness of your comments. Just a shame that I went a little bit too much emotional over the rape subject and went entangled on myself emotions and talking non sense. It only comes to show how easy is to loose oneself in samsara and that the difficulties of participating in forums. /
//
/The first initial post you mention is a post coming from the practice and yet and no one except from yourself have said a word about it. But as soon as I said things such as: "Take justice in one's hand and cut the sexual organs of a rapist", it's incredible the attention I got!. It only comes to show that the strenght of this forum is not in our practice./
//
/Thanks for your response and appreciation/
/Mayka/
--- On *Thu, 24/2/11, Mel /<[email protected]>/* wrote:


    From: Mel <[email protected]>
    Subject: [Zen] Can A Buddha Harm Others?(to ED/Mayka/list)
    To: [email protected]
    Date: Thursday, 24 February, 2011, 13:12

    It is impossible to force change on anyone, ED. However, please do
    understand that I wouldn't have been the first, nor will I be the
    last to take note of openly dualistic postings from those outside
    of the path, and those who aspire to the Zen way of life itself
    are bound to notice such posts eventually. For better or worse,
    you may hear or read things you don't want to hear, or read about.
    That's just the way it is. That's the bad news, but the good news
    is that you're probably keeping the group alive by your very words
    of what must be quite extensive knowledge about many things...odd
    as they may be to some of us. Read Mayka's first reply to Steve's
    posting concerning this current thread. It's quite eye-opening.
    Nothing academic...just simple, clear-headeness..possible
    dualistic translation: BIG MIND
    Just as they have self-confessed atheists and other 'sinners' in
    biblical forums...we on the other hand have academics like
    yourself who wish to work out Zen without the experience.
    That's all well and good if that suits you. As I said ED, nobody
    can force change on you, and if that bothers them(you can include
    me on that list if I'm guilty), then they themselves are breaking
    faith with the old prince himself, and what he aspired to and taught
    Buddha be praised
    Mel

    --- On *Thu, 24/2/11, ED /<[email protected]>/* wrote:


        From: ED <[email protected]>
        Subject: Re: [Zen] Can A Buddha Harm Others?
        To: [email protected]
        Received: Thursday, 24 February, 2011, 1:31 AM


        Hello Mel,
        Are you possessed by an irresistible need to have me change my
        ways to make you happy?  ;-)
        Best regards,
        --ED
        --- In [email protected], Mel <gunnar19632000@...> wrote:
        >
        MEL: Yes, but the words DELIBERATE and INTENTIONAL are open to
        interpretation
        (..ED, no need to post quotes from the dictionary or
        Wikipedia. I am interested only in experiences, not academic
        discussions..)



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