Hello Mayka,
I completely agree. I said alone because you said, "... no one but Mel
responded."
I was in Berkeley 1967 - 1972. A true hippie. Well??
Be Enlightened In This Life - We ALL Can
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On 2/24/2011 12:32 PM, Maria Lopez wrote:
/JMJM;/
//
/The written style of your response sounded as kind of hippie from the
sixties. /
//
/You have misunderstand my posting. I was only making a point and
that was that in forums samsara have a greater power than actually the
real dharma. That's all what I meant. . Posting addressed wasn't
about feeling alone or something like that. But about how easy we are
lead to samsara and how little is the strenght of the practice in the
forum. I have no expectations of anyone given a response to my mail
at all. What it meant was that is much easy to be dragged down by
intellectual and samsara stronger energy in the forum rather than from
the energy of the practice because there is no much of that in the
forum. That's all what I meant. It was just merely a reflexion badly
expressed obviously. /
//
/Thank you for good intentions ./
/Mayka/
--- On *Thu, 24/2/11, Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明
/<[email protected]>/* wrote:
From: Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明 <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Zen] Can A Buddha Harm Others?(to ED/Mayka/list)
To: [email protected]
Date: Thursday, 24 February, 2011, 15:52
Mayka Dear,
Please don't feel that you are alone. Many of us on the forum are
with you.
I am sure those on the forum who meditates "connect" with you. I
am also somewhat certain those who do not, probably do not. Steve
already posted something like, "... there are those wanted to show
that they are right..."
As you know, that's what delusion is.
Harvey already said, "zen teachers can not be nice, need to talk
like a blade." On the other hand, he also said, that we must drip
instead of poring water over dry land. That's when as suggested
by my teacher, "we need wisdom in our journey to accompany
compassion."
It's time for me to support Mel's post a little in my next post.
:-)
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On 2/24/2011 7:30 AM, Maria Lopez wrote:
/Mel:/
//
/Thank you for the kindness of your comments. Just a shame that
I went a little bit too much emotional over the rape subject
and went entangled on myself emotions and talking non sense. It
only comes to show how easy is to loose oneself in samsara and
that the difficulties of participating in forums. /
//
/The first initial post you mention is a post coming from the
practice and yet and no one except from yourself have said a word
about it. But as soon as I said things such as: "Take justice
in one's hand and cut the sexual organs of a rapist", it's
incredible the attention I got!. It only comes to show that the
strenght of this forum is not in our practice./
//
/Thanks for your response and appreciation/
/Mayka/
--- On *Thu, 24/2/11, Mel /<[email protected]>
<http://uk.mc862.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]>/*
wrote:
From: Mel <[email protected]>
<http://uk.mc862.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]>
Subject: [Zen] Can A Buddha Harm Others?(to ED/Mayka/list)
To: [email protected]
<http://uk.mc862.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]>
Date: Thursday, 24 February, 2011, 13:12
It is impossible to force change on anyone, ED. However,
please do understand that I wouldn't have been the first, nor
will I be the last to take note of openly dualistic postings
from those outside of the path, and those who aspire to the
Zen way of life itself are bound to notice such posts
eventually. For better or worse, you may hear or read things
you don't want to hear, or read about. That's just the way it
is. That's the bad news, but the good news is that you're
probably keeping the group alive by your very words of what
must be quite extensive knowledge about many things...odd as
they may be to some of us. Read Mayka's first reply to
Steve's posting concerning this current thread. It's quite
eye-opening. Nothing academic...just simple,
clear-headeness..possible dualistic translation: BIG MIND
Just as they have self-confessed atheists and other 'sinners'
in biblical forums...we on the other hand have academics like
yourself who wish to work out Zen without the experience.
That's all well and good if that suits you. As I said ED,
nobody can force change on you, and if that bothers them(you
can include me on that list if I'm guilty), then they
themselves are breaking faith with the old prince himself,
and what he aspired to and taught
Buddha be praised
Mel
--- On *Thu, 24/2/11, ED /<[email protected]>
<http://uk.mc862.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]>/*
wrote:
From: ED <[email protected]>
<http://uk.mc862.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Zen] Can A Buddha Harm Others?
To: [email protected]
<http://uk.mc862.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]>
Received: Thursday, 24 February, 2011, 1:31 AM
Hello Mel,
Are you possessed by an irresistible need to have me
change my ways to make you happy? ;-)
Best regards,
--ED
--- In [email protected]
<http://uk.mc862.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]>,
Mel <gunnar19632000@...>
<http://uk.mc862.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=gunnar19632000@...>
wrote:
>
MEL: Yes, but the words DELIBERATE and INTENTIONAL are
open to interpretation
(..ED, no need to post quotes from the dictionary or
Wikipedia. I am interested only in experiences, not
academic discussions..)
