JMJM,
In the sixties I was living at home and attending high school in
Huntington, Indiana and going to college at Michigan State in East
Lansing Michigan. I didn't grow long hair until I later in life.
I was one a member of a radical faction of FFA (Future Farmers of
America). Does that count?
...Bill!
--- In [email protected] <mailto:Zen_Forum%40yahoogroups.com>,
Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明 <chan.jmjm@...> wrote:
>
> No no, Bill. That's too late to be considered a Hippie. Sorry LA. :-)
>
> You must be living at Berkeley during the sixties, then you would meet
> the HareKrisna, long hair dudes, singing ladies, never shaving guitar
> players.... Then you will be moved to get up and revolt against all
> establishments -- school, draft, government, teachers and corporations.
>
> Ah... those fun years, especially FREE LOVE and all the mariwana...
>
> Be Enlightened In This Life - We ALL Can
> http://chanjmjm.blogspot.com
> http://www.heartchan.org
>
>
> On 2/25/2011 2:13 AM, Bill! wrote:
> >
> > JMJM.
> >
> > I lived in Berkeley/Rockridge from 1984-1995...Bill!
> >
> > --- In [email protected]
<mailto:Zen_Forum%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:Zen_Forum%40yahoogroups.com>,
> > Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明 <chan.jmjm@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello Mayka,
> > >
> > > I completely agree. I said alone because you said, "... no one
but Mel
> > > responded."
> > >
> > > I was in Berkeley 1967 - 1972. A true hippie. Well??
> > >
> > > Be Enlightened In This Life - We ALL Can
> > > http://chanjmjm.blogspot.com
> > > http://www.heartchan.org
> > >
> > >
> > > On 2/24/2011 12:32 PM, Maria Lopez wrote:
> > > >
> > > > /JMJM;/
> > > > //
> > > > /The written style of your response sounded as kind of hippie
from
> > the
> > > > sixties. /
> > > > //
> > > > /You have misunderstand my posting. I was only making a point and
> > > > that was that in forums samsara have a greater power than
actually
> > the
> > > > real dharma. That's all what I meant. . Posting addressed wasn't
> > > > about feeling alone or something like that. But about how easy
we are
> > > > lead to samsara and how little is the strenght of the practice
in the
> > > > forum. I have no expectations of anyone given a response to my
mail
> > > > at all. What it meant was that is much easy to be dragged down by
> > > > intellectual and samsara stronger energy in the forum rather than
> > from
> > > > the energy of the practice because there is no much of that in the
> > > > forum. That's all what I meant. It was just merely a reflexion
badly
> > > > expressed obviously. /
> > > > //
> > > > /Thank you for good intentions ./
> > > > /Mayka/
> > > >
> > > > --- On *Thu, 24/2/11, Jue Miao Jing Ming -
覺妙精明
> > > > /<chan.jmjm@>/* wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > From: Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明 <chan.jmjm@>
> > > > Subject: Re: [Zen] Can A Buddha Harm Others?(to ED/Mayka/list)
> > > > To: [email protected]
<mailto:Zen_Forum%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:Zen_Forum%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > Date: Thursday, 24 February, 2011, 15:52
> > > >
> > > > Mayka Dear,
> > > >
> > > > Please don't feel that you are alone. Many of us on the forum are
> > > > with you.
> > > >
> > > > I am sure those on the forum who meditates "connect" with you. I
> > > > am also somewhat certain those who do not, probably do not. Steve
> > > > already posted something like, "... there are those wanted to show
> > > > that they are right..."
> > > >
> > > > As you know, that's what delusion is.
> > > >
> > > > Harvey already said, "zen teachers can not be nice, need to talk
> > > > like a blade." On the other hand, he also said, that we must drip
> > > > instead of poring water over dry land. That's when as suggested
> > > > by my teacher, "we need wisdom in our journey to accompany
> > > > compassion."
> > > >
> > > > It's time for me to support Mel's post a little in my next post.
> > > >
> > > > :-)
> > > >
> > > > Be Enlightened In This Life - We ALL Can
> > > > http://chanjmjm.blogspot.com <http://chanjmjm.blogspot.com/>
> > > > http://www.heartchan.org <http://www.heartchan.org/>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 2/24/2011 7:30 AM, Maria Lopez wrote:
> > > >> /Mel:/
> > > >> //
> > > >> /Thank you for the kindness of your comments. Just a shame that
> > > >> I went a little bit too much emotional over the rape subject
> > > >> and went entangled on myself emotions and talking non sense. It
> > > >> only comes to show how easy is to loose oneself in samsara and
> > > >> that the difficulties of participating in forums. /
> > > >> //
> > > >> /The first initial post you mention is a post coming from the
> > > >> practice and yet and no one except from yourself have said a word
> > > >> about it. But as soon as I said things such as: "Take justice
> > > >> in one's hand and cut the sexual organs of a rapist", it's
> > > >> incredible the attention I got!. It only comes to show that the
> > > >> strenght of this forum is not in our practice./
> > > >> //
> > > >> /Thanks for your response and appreciation/
> > > >> /Mayka/
> > > >> --- On *Thu, 24/2/11, Mel /<gunnar19632000@>
> > > >> <http://uk.mc862.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=gunnar19632000@>/*
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> From: Mel <gunnar19632000@>
> > > >> <http://uk.mc862.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=gunnar19632000@>
> > > >> Subject: [Zen] Can A Buddha Harm Others?(to ED/Mayka/list)
> > > >> To: [email protected]
<mailto:Zen_Forum%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:Zen_Forum%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > >>
> >
<http://uk.mc862.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]>
> > > >> Date: Thursday, 24 February, 2011, 13:12
> > > >>
> > > >> It is impossible to force change on anyone, ED. However,
> > > >> please do understand that I wouldn't have been the first, nor
> > > >> will I be the last to take note of openly dualistic postings
> > > >> from those outside of the path, and those who aspire to the
> > > >> Zen way of life itself are bound to notice such posts
> > > >> eventually. For better or worse, you may hear or read things
> > > >> you don't want to hear, or read about. That's just the way it
> > > >> is. That's the bad news, but the good news is that you're
> > > >> probably keeping the group alive by your very words of what
> > > >> must be quite extensive knowledge about many things...odd as
> > > >> they may be to some of us. Read Mayka's first reply to
> > > >> Steve's posting concerning this current thread. It's quite
> > > >> eye-opening. Nothing academic...just simple,
> > > >> clear-headeness..possible dualistic translation: BIG MIND
> > > >> Just as they have self-confessed atheists and other 'sinners'
> > > >> in biblical forums...we on the other hand have academics like
> > > >> yourself who wish to work out Zen without the experience.
> > > >> That's all well and good if that suits you. As I said ED,
> > > >> nobody can force change on you, and if that bothers them(you
> > > >> can include me on that list if I'm guilty), then they
> > > >> themselves are breaking faith with the old prince himself,
> > > >> and what he aspired to and taught
> > > >> Buddha be praised
> > > >> Mel
> > > >>
> > > >> --- On *Thu, 24/2/11, ED /<seacrofter001@>
> > > >> <http://uk.mc862.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=seacrofter001@>/*
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> From: ED <seacrofter001@>
> > > >> <http://uk.mc862.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=seacrofter001@>
> > > >> Subject: Re: [Zen] Can A Buddha Harm Others?
> > > >> To: [email protected]
<mailto:Zen_Forum%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:Zen_Forum%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > >>
> >
<http://uk.mc862.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]>
> > > >> Received: Thursday, 24 February, 2011, 1:31 AM
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Hello Mel,
> > > >> Are you possessed by an irresistible need to have me
> > > >> change my ways to make you happy? ;-)
> > > >> Best regards,
> > > >> --ED
> > > >> --- In [email protected]
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> > > >>
> >
<http://uk.mc862.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]>,
> > > >> Mel <gunnar19632000@>
> > > >> <http://uk.mc862.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=gunnar19632000@>
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >> >
> > > >> MEL: Yes, but the words DELIBERATE and INTENTIONAL are
> > > >> open to interpretation
> > > >> (..ED, no need to post quotes from the dictionary or
> > > >> Wikipedia. I am interested only in experiences, not
> > > >> academic discussions..)
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
>