Hi Steve,

I asked the question, because the comparable Ramana Maharshi (or his
translator?) used the term:

"The Self is pure awareness."    http://www.sageramana.org/
<http://www.sageramana.org/>


I thought it might have meant a non-dual awareness, that is, an
awareness without a sense of subject/object or  of I/Me/Mine.

--ED



--- In [email protected], "SteveW" <eugnostos2000@...> wrote:
>

> Hi ED. In my opinion, to speak of awareness can be misleading if
we do not include the objects of awareness, including "mental"
objects (Although all phenomena are mental!)such as thoughts
and feelings.

Awareness without objects of awareness would not
be aware of being aware. Hence it would seem to not exist. We
imagine that we are body/minds that are sometimes aware and sometimes
not.

IMO, we are Awareness that is sometimes aware of being a
particular body/mind and sometimes not. So you see that Awareness
and the objects of awareness are Not-Two. As Seng T'san noted,
"The object is object for the subject, and the subject is subject
for the object. Know that the relativity of both rest upon one
emptiness."
IMO.
Steve





> Mike and All,
>
> What is the equivalent of 'pure awareness' in Zen?
>
> --ED


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