ED,

As one who has been identified as 'kensho-tinged', I advise you to PLEASE 
NOTE!!!!!

JMJM recommened you "read, absorb, practice and live" the Heart and Diamond 
Sutras.

Not UNDERSTAND them!  No thinking required here...Bill!

--- In [email protected], "ED" <seacrofter001@...> wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In [email protected], Jue Miao Jing Ming -
> 覺妙精明 <chan.jmjm@> wrote:
> >
> > Good Morning Ed,
> >
> > I respect your honest search for the truth in Zen.
> 
> Good morning JM,
> 
> For your information and growth only, I would like to inform you (as you
> had requested) that your statement above comes across as rather
> patronizing, but I don't mind, really, as you also come across as a very
> caring person.
> 
> 
> > Instead of discussion online with too many different perspectives from
> > various schools and experiences, may I recommend two readings for you.
> >
> > Heart Sutra - read, absorb, practice and live it. (only about one
> > hundred some Chinese characters)
> > Diamond Sutra - read, absorb, practice and live it. (only about five
> > thousand Chinese characters)
> 
> But the only kensho-tinged persons (that I can recognize) in this forum
> (Bill, Steve and Mike) have advised me to stop reading and thinking.
> 
> 
> > At every moment in your life, check your heart against the
> descriptions
> > in these sutras.
> >
> > I trust everyone, probably except Bill, would agree, these two sutra
> are
> > the guiding references for most of the Zen, Chan schools.
> >
> > By reading, absorbing, practicing, and living it, you may find some
> > solid reference for your journey.
> >
> > Just for your reference.
> > JM
> 
> Thank you JM, you are a very kind teacher, and I will do my best.
> 
> --ED
> 
> 
> 
> > > --- In [email protected], mike brown uerusuboyo@ wrote:
> > >
> > > ED: Zen claims no accomplishments through enlightenment.
> > >
> > > Mike: That's true, but on one level it does seem to be more
> conducive
> > > to creative endeavours than destructive ones.
> > >
> > > ED: Nobody can doubt that in general Zen/enlightenment has positive
> > > personal fallout - but that's not the objective of
> zen/enlightenment,
> > > yes? Neither is any good fallout for humankind or Gaia the goal,
> > > although that might happen too, yes?
>




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