ED,

I think we're in agreement about many, many things discussed (and probably not 
discssed things) here. My main disagreement lies in what appears to be your 
rather strong position that many of the truths in Zen can be conveyed in words 
by those who have awakened to them (I know, Steve - I'm a jiriki junkie).

Mike 




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From: ED <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wed, 9 March, 2011 1:43:20
Subject: [Zen] Re: Two Potent Quotes

  

Mike,
Do you perceive anything we disagree about?
--ED
 
--- In [email protected], mike brown <uerusuboyo@...> wrote:
>
> ED,
> 
> There is no goal or objective in Zen. It might be argued in Therevada and 
> Hinayana Buddhism that the end of suffering is the goal of practice, but in 
> Mahayana Buddhism, and Zen in particular, it is much clearer that there is no 
> goal/objective - just an acceptance of what is and living with that. Btw, 
> accepting what is isn't a passive or defeatist worldview but is closer (IMO) 
> to 
>
> the serenity prayer of changing what you can, accepting what you can't and 
> the 

> wisdom to know the diference.
> 
> Mike
 



      

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