Good Morning Ed,
I respect your honest search for the truth in Zen.
Instead of discussion online with too many different perspectives from
various schools and experiences, may I recommend two readings for you.
Heart Sutra - read, absorb, practice and live it. (only about one
hundred some Chinese characters)
Diamond Sutra - read, absorb, practice and live it. (only about five
thousand Chinese characters)
At every moment in your life, check your heart against the descriptions
in these sutras.
I trust everyone, probably except Bill, would agree, these two sutra are
the guiding references for most of the Zen, Chan schools.
By reading, absorbing, practicing, and living it, you may find some
solid reference for your journey.
Just for your reference.
JM
Be Enlightened In This Life - We ALL Can
http://chanjmjm.blogspot.com
http://www.heartchan.org
On 3/8/2011 7:26 AM, ED wrote:
--- In [email protected], mike brown <uerusuboyo@...> wrote:
ED: Zen claims no accomplishments through enlightenment.
Mike: That's true, but on one level it does seem to be more conducive
to creative endeavours than destructive ones.
ED: Nobody can doubt that in general Zen/enlightenment has positive
personal fallout - but that's not the objective of zen/enlightenment,
yes? Neither is any good fallout for humankind or Gaia the goal,
although that might happen too, yes?
