--- In [email protected], Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺å¦ç²¾æ <chan.jmjm@...> wrote: > > Good Morning Ed, > > I respect your honest search for the truth in Zen.
Good morning JM, For your information and growth only, I would like to inform you (as you had requested) that your statement above comes across as rather patronizing, but I don't mind, really, as you also come across as a very caring person. > Instead of discussion online with too many different perspectives from > various schools and experiences, may I recommend two readings for you. > > Heart Sutra - read, absorb, practice and live it. (only about one > hundred some Chinese characters) > Diamond Sutra - read, absorb, practice and live it. (only about five > thousand Chinese characters) But the only kensho-tinged persons (that I can recognize) in this forum (Bill, Steve and Mike) have advised me to stop reading and thinking. > At every moment in your life, check your heart against the descriptions > in these sutras. > > I trust everyone, probably except Bill, would agree, these two sutra are > the guiding references for most of the Zen, Chan schools. > > By reading, absorbing, practicing, and living it, you may find some > solid reference for your journey. > > Just for your reference. > JM Thank you JM, you are a very kind teacher, and I will do my best. --ED > > --- In [email protected], mike brown uerusuboyo@ wrote: > > > > ED: Zen claims no accomplishments through enlightenment. > > > > Mike: That's true, but on one level it does seem to be more conducive > > to creative endeavours than destructive ones. > > > > ED: Nobody can doubt that in general Zen/enlightenment has positive > > personal fallout - but that's not the objective of zen/enlightenment, > > yes? Neither is any good fallout for humankind or Gaia the goal, > > although that might happen too, yes?
