Hi Mayka,
Yes indeed. I do recall. Sorry that I forgot to mention you as someone
Anthony labeled as "allies".
:-)
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On 4/15/2011 7:34 AM, Maria Lopez wrote:
JMJM;
I have sometimes refer the heart in some postings. If I haven't use
that term much is because I was taking for granted that everyone knows
what the heart is, if not by terminology, It certainly by sensing,
feeling it. It's with the heart that the practise unfolds its real
wisdom. Differently it all would be mental!. I have said more than
once than the heart is the engine of the universe. Nothing truly
alive is possible without it. Not everthing is on detriment to
emotional, sensitive people and our great advantage here is the
heart. Though some may argue here that the emotions are not in the
heart and that that is an illusion.
Mayka
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From: Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明 <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Zen] The Three Dimensions of Release
To: [email protected]
Date: Friday, 15 April, 2011, 14:54
Anthony, Ally is not important. So far no one that I know in
this forum said anything about the heart. And it has been what
six or seven years now, I am still talking about the heart and you
are still asking and Bill continue rejecting the chi. These are
all labels in the first place.
That's what life is. That's what Chan is. Everything is as is.
The key is to recognize that we are all driven by karma.
:-)
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On 4/15/2011 6:16 AM, Anthony Wu wrote:
JM,
Now you have strong allies. Maybe Mike and/or ED can shed light
on the 'heart' and the mind.
Anthony
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From: Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明 <[email protected]>
<http://uk.mc862.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Zen] The Three Dimensions of Release
To: [email protected]
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Date: Friday, 15 April, 2011, 7:53 AM
Hi Anthony,
I understand that you trying to discuss from a logic or
definition of words. I am not saying whether I am correct or
wrong. At the beginning of my journey I am like you. I
struggle with these terms as well. As I said, it took me six
year to conquer my terminology.
Actually, all my posts are from my experience. My experience
like Daniel's youtube is center in the heart and not in the
brain. It is a whole body experience. And this experience
coincide more and more with my Teacher's teaching as time
passes.
Don't mean to confuse you. I also like to say, in my states,
there is no mind and no heart, just chi, electricity and
lights. The key point IMO, is that state of kensho, satori,
or even just Jhana can not sustained without chi, which is
labeled as vital energy by Daniel.
Of course, my experience could also be labeled as maya by
Bill. :-)
It is not important what I say or experience. It is only
important what you experience. As you well know, Buddha said
clearly in Diamond sutra that He said NO dharma.
Best, JM
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On 4/14/2011 4:10 PM, Anthony Wu wrote:
JM,
What is 'mind'? What is 'heart'? What is the difference
between 'mind' and 'heart'?
Anthony
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From: Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明
<[email protected]>
<http://sg.mc774.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Zen] The Three Dimensions of Release
To: [email protected]
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Date: Friday, 15 April, 2011, 3:36 AM
Wow, Thank you ED. I have watched the first one.
HuangDi Neijing said it very clearly for 2,000 years,
"Our Shen, or inner divine, requires the support of Qi
or Chi."
Personally, having a high tech BG, it took me 6 years to
wake up to the fact that our Teaching is not about our
mind. It is about our entire being. And at the center
of it, is our heart.
That's my witness. Now there is someone else too.
Thank you again, ED. Lovely day today.
:-)
JM
BTW, I was just informed that our version of Diamond
Sutra is on youtube with English subtitle.
http://www.youtube.com/joycedaolian#p/u/4/ROkmtB1fB8I
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On 4/14/2011 10:25 AM, ED wrote:
Mike, two more tapes by Empty_Grace. I experience this
guy as knowing what he is talking about. JM, he has
good things to say about the Heart. --ED
The Three Dimensions of Release
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejQsIFDrb4M&NR=1
<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejQsIFDrb4M&NR=1> Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-4Vw54Dabw&feature=related
<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-4Vw54Dabw&feature=related>
Part 2