ED,

I don't know where you got this quote from (and I don't really care so your 
don't have to tell me).  I have never before this heard anyone say that Buddha 
(Guatama Siddhartha?) used the term 'mindfulness'.  I'd actually like to know 
the original word used and what other translations of that word are possible.  
But...that really doesn't matter a lot.

Even taking the quote below as accurate, Buddha does not equate mind and 
'mindfulness', or even infer that mental activity (cognition) is required for 
'mindfulness'.

After reading the quote again I think a better term for 'mindfulness' would 
just be 'awareness'.  But that's just me.  I don't 'feel' that the word 
'mindfulness' when used in a zen context has anything to do with mind as we 
normally accept mind - that is as seat of thinking, cognition, 
intellectualizations, rationalizations, logic, discrminations, etc...

Just my 2-cents worth...Bill! 

--- In [email protected], "ED" <seacrofter001@...> wrote:
>
> 
> 
> 
> Please note: Buddha did not discount the mind and its conjuncts when
> addressing mindfulness.  ;-)
> 
> --ED
> 
> 
> Four Frames of Reference
> The Buddha said there are four frames of reference in mindfulness:
> 
>     1. Mindfulness of body (kayasati).
>     2. Mindfulness of feelings or sensations (vedanasati).
>     3. Mindfulness of mind or mental processes (cittasati).
>     4. Mindfulness of mental objects or qualities (dhammasati).
>




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