Mayka, So if your and my understanding of 'mindfulness/awareness' is not the same as the Buddhist scriptures (Sutras?), what do we do?
I know what I'll do - BURN THEM! ...Bill! --- In [email protected], Maria Lopez <flordeloto@...> wrote: > > Bill: > That's it!:: Mindfulness=Awareness.  However, do bear in mind that this > description might be only personal to you and me. So, we may not have the > correct one according to the official buddhist scriptures. Let's see with > come out Daniel tomorrow. > Mayka > > --- On Fri, 20/5/11, Bill! <BillSmart@...> wrote: > > From: Bill! <BillSmart@...> > Subject: [Zen] Re: Three Western Myths About Mindfulness > To: [email protected] > Date: Friday, 20 May, 2011, 11:55 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > ED, > > > > I don't know where you got this quote from (and I don't really care so your > don't have to tell me). I have never before this heard anyone say that > Buddha (Guatama Siddhartha?) used the term 'mindfulness'. I'd actually like > to know the original word used and what other translations of that word are > possible. But...that really doesn't matter a lot. > > > > Even taking the quote below as accurate, Buddha does not equate mind and > 'mindfulness', or even infer that mental activity (cognition) is required for > 'mindfulness'. > > > > After reading the quote again I think a better term for 'mindfulness' would > just be 'awareness'. But that's just me. I don't 'feel' that the word > 'mindfulness' when used in a zen context has anything to do with mind as we > normally accept mind - that is as seat of thinking, cognition, > intellectualizations, rationalizations, logic, discrminations, etc... > > > > Just my 2-cents worth...Bill! > > > > --- In [email protected], "ED" <seacrofter001@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please note: Buddha did not discount the mind and its conjuncts when > > > addressing mindfulness. ;-) > > > > > > --ED > > > > > > > > > Four Frames of Reference > > > The Buddha said there are four frames of reference in mindfulness: > > > > > > 1. Mindfulness of body (kayasati). > > > 2. Mindfulness of feelings or sensations (vedanasati). > > > 3. Mindfulness of mind or mental processes (cittasati). > > > 4. Mindfulness of mental objects or qualities (dhammasati). > > > > ------------------------------------ Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: [email protected] [email protected] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [email protected] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
