Anthony,

You talk to much!  Like a doting old grandmother!  
Better you just keep your mouth shut, turn around and walk away.

Unless of course you want the Big Stick!

...Bill!

--- In [email protected], Anthony Wu <wuasg@...> wrote:
>
> Mel,
>  
> There are plenty of zen quotations to the effect of killing Buddha.
>  
> One of them, 'when you meet Buddha on the road, kill him.'
>  
> To a lesser degree, 'when you utter the word Buddha, wash your mouth 
> completely.'
>  
> To a more degree by Unmon Zen Master, 'Too bad I wasn't there when Buddha 
> made his 7 steps in each direction, and exclaimed, 'in heaven and on earth I 
> am the most worthy of honor', as soon as he was born. If I had been, I would 
> have struck him death and fed his body to hungry dogs.'
>  
> You are right that no Middle Eastern religions ever come close as that 
> statement. IMO, those remarks are aimed at ridding you of all attachments, 
> including the most sacred ones.
>  
> Anthony
> 
> --- On Sat, 9/7/11, Mel <gunnar19632000@...> wrote:
> 
> 
> From: Mel <gunnar19632000@...>
> Subject: Re: [Zen] Zen and Christianity are incompatible
> To: [email protected]
> Date: Saturday, 9 July, 2011, 10:45 PM
> 
> 
>   
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> 
> With my lack of interest in too much ritual and ceremony, I doubt that I 
> could be described as a Zen Buddhist. As far as I'm concerned, you bow once 
> when you enter the room, and then once on your way out. The Soto group I was 
> with also had these naming ceremonies and robes which I never really took 
> to. However, I have stuck to(well, sort of) the Soto way of things as I never 
> liked this Rinzai obssession with koans. Unlike Bill, I use 'zen' and Zen 
> whichever one fits my mood at any given moment, but neither wording changes 
> what I do
>  
> Urged to kill the teacher? I may be misunderstanding your wordings here, but 
> morals and compassion in the Hebrew sense is not where I am here. I'm not 
> sure I understand your question completely
>  
> in Buddha's grace
> Mel
> 
> --- On Sun, 10/7/11, Anthony Wu <wuasg@...> wrote:
> 
> 
> From: Anthony Wu <wuasg@...>
> Subject: Re: [Zen] Zen and Christianity are incompatible
> To: [email protected]
> Received: Sunday, 10 July, 2011, 12:09 AM
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> Mel,
>  
> Then how can you be a zen Buddhist while you are urged to kill your teacher?
>  
> Anthony
> 
> --- On Sat, 9/7/11, Mel <gunnar19632000@...> wrote:
> 
> 
> From: Mel <gunnar19632000@...>
> Subject: [Zen] Zen and Christianity are incompatible
> To: [email protected]
> Date: Saturday, 9 July, 2011, 7:53 PM
> 
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> Being a devout Christian and a practitioner of zen is basically an 
> impossiblity. One has an actual god that one obeys without question, and the 
> other one which is zen/Zen, doesn't
>  
> in Buddha's grace
> Mel
>




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