Thank you Mel.  Indeed....  If I may support....

There are two sayings among our practitioners. The first one is a bit harsh.. "How could you be Buddha, if you could not even be a good human?"

The second one is from the sutra, "Fulfilling our secular responsibility is the prerequisite to spiritual enlightenment."

If we can not "see" the wisdom in every encounter/incident/phenomena in lives around us, then we are living in separation from the truth. If we don't accept ALL as is -- still picking and choosing -- then we still are living in a dream constructed by our dualistic mind.

The objective of Sitting Chan is to be enlightened to the truth of the universe, not into some exotic realm unrelated to the purpose of our lives.

Yes, true enlightenment does uncover the super power within us. But it is merely for undertaking more karma more efficiently for all sentient beings.

None of any of these is for our personal gain. In fact, there is nothing to gain and a lot to loose. :-)
JM

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On 7/13/2011 3:17 AM, Mel wrote:

Hello Anthony, BII, and all

That's quite ok if you find some kind inspiration or kick from what you refer to as the illogical or irrational side of zen/Zen. Personally, I don't promote, or support such ideas. To me, they're just extras I don't really need myself

Somebody made quite a serious mistake with me today, and the fact that it was someone I trusted made the whole experience feel like a big kick in the gut. Nevertheless, one of my first reactions was...keep posture and head straight, chin in, and breath. It wasn't easy due to all sorts of dualistic notions going through my head, but I did it. Writing on paper or typing things up on cyber-space concerning any of my daily dramas are often therapeutic, although this is most dualistic. The better thing to do is head up, spine straight, and breath. Not easy, but quite possible

The above is one kind of example I mean when I keep refering to zen and its connection with daily life. To hear stories such as....

..'A sat in zazen posture. B asked A what he was doing, and A said,"I want to be Buddha". B started polishing a tile. A asked B what he was doing, and B said,"I'm trying to make a jewel", and A responded,"How can you make a jewel with that tile?", and B responded,"How do you become Buddha by zazen?"........

....is not really my cup of tea. Each and everyday that goes by gives me more than enough 'koan' to fill my need to be near Buddha

in Buddha's grace, Mel


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