Hi, Kris,

I tell you, it's good to have this point of agreement.  I cannot tell you how 
it's surprised me at times when I made this point in sangha discussions at 
several zendos over four decades, just in passing, and have been jumped on by 
irate newcomers, or folks who have done a lot of "reading".  Teachers, whether 
male or female who were doing the moderating, usually backed me up, but of 
course tried also to keep the complainers in the fold.  I'm glad no one has 
jumped down my throat here yet on this point!  If it happens, I'll let it go, 
but will appreciate that there are at least two of us here who see it this way. 
 Really, as many as "two"?  haha

We must urge others not to "fake it", though.  Danger!

Practice, practice, practice!, instead.

(don't even THINK about compassion).  ;-)

Strong practice,

--Joe

> Kris quoted Joe, and wrote:

>> (Another thing, sometimes noted: Compassion is not necessarily 
>> something you FEEL, but it simply operates; and, to say the least, it 
>> is not always "sweetness-and-light").

> Indeed!




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