Bill!,

Sure. Wouldn't survive long without eating. I see Buddha's teachings as the 
chef and you and Edgar as the waiters tho.

Bon appetite!

Mike



________________________________
 From: Bill! <[email protected]>
To: [email protected] 
Sent: Sunday, 2 September 2012, 12:16
Subject: [Zen] Re: " dancing with the daffodils"
 

  
Mike and ED,

Or how about...Just continue to exchange posts with Edgar.  He's got what seems 
to be an unlimited supply of rice gruel.  He'll keep your bowl filled to the 
brim!

...Bill!

--- In [email protected], "Bill!" <BillSmart@...> wrote:
>
> Mike,  Point taken, but this is the Zen Forum, not the Theravada Forum or the 
> Here-Have-Some-More-Rice-Gruel Forum.
> 
> ED, Just sit.  Don't think.  Just sit.
> 
> ...Bill!
> 
> --- In [email protected], mike brown <uerusuboyo@> wrote:
> >
> > Bill!,
> > 
> > A great instruction, and is certainly direct, but Joshu's instructions were 
> > given to a monk who had probably been practicing meditation for a long time 
> > and was already 'ripe' for awakening to happen. Imagine how useful that 
> > instruction would be to a neophyte coming off the street asking about the 
> > search for truth or something similar. Joshu's instruction is just that - 
> > an instruction. That's why i believe Buddha's skilful means (upaya) is so 
> > useful as a teaching method. On the one side we can have the direct 
> > pointing to the Dharma (Zen) and on the other we can have Therevada 
> > Buddhism with it's more step by step instructions, such as following the 
> > Noble eightfold Path. 
> > 
> > The Buddha was very wise to understand that there are many different kinds 
> > of people/cultures/personalities etc. out there and no one method will work 
> > for all. I think it should be clear now that "wash you bowls" just isn't 
> > going to work for someone like ED. If you agree, what else could you say 
> > that might help him?
> > 
> > Mike
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ________________________________
> >  From: Bill! <BillSmart@>
> > To: [email protected] 
> > Sent: Sunday, 2 September 2012, 9:48
> > Subject: [Zen] Re: " dancing with the daffodils"
> > 
> > 
> >   
> > ED,
> > 
> > Mind if Joshu and I jump in?
> > 
> > "WASH YOUR BOWLS!"  That's how...Bill! (and Joshu)
> > 
> > --- In [email protected], "ED" <seacrofter001@> wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Edgar,
> > > 
> > > And how is this magic trick accomplished?
> > > 
> > > --ED
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In [email protected], Edgar Owen <edgarowen@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > ED,
> > > >
> > > > Stop practicing and just BE your Buddha Nature!
> > > >
> > > > Edgar
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > > Edgar,
> > > > >
> > > > > Therefore, although each of us is complete, we need to practice
> > > > > diligently at all times with no objective in mind?
> > > > >
> > > > > --ED
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > > > Joe and Merle,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > There is no 'goal' of enlightenment to be achieved without which
> > > you
> > > > > imagine you are incomplete....
> > > > > >
> > > > > > There is no incompleteness. This understanding is an essential
> > > aspect
> > > > > of realization...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Wham!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Edgar
> > >
> >
>


 

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