Tenzo's mindfulness
Working to keep bellies full
Empty bowls dirtied
KG
(PS - "Wash your bowl!" *L*)
On 9/2/2012 7:24 AM, mike brown wrote:
Bill!,
Sure. Wouldn't survive long without eating. I see Buddha's teachings
as the chef and you and Edgar as the waiters tho.
Bon appetite!
Mike
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*From:* Bill! <[email protected]>
*To:* [email protected]
*Sent:* Sunday, 2 September 2012, 12:16
*Subject:* [Zen] Re: " dancing with the daffodils"
Mike and ED,
Or how about...Just continue to exchange posts with Edgar. He's got
what seems to be an unlimited supply of rice gruel. He'll keep your
bowl filled to the brim!
...Bill!
--- In [email protected] <mailto:Zen_Forum%40yahoogroups.com>,
"Bill!" <BillSmart@...> wrote:
>
> Mike, Point taken, but this is the Zen Forum, not the Theravada
Forum or the Here-Have-Some-More-Rice-Gruel Forum.
>
> ED, Just sit. Don't think. Just sit.
>
> ...Bill!
>
> --- In [email protected]
<mailto:Zen_Forum%40yahoogroups.com>, mike brown <uerusuboyo@> wrote:
> >
> > Bill!,
> >
> > A great instruction, and is certainly direct, but Joshu's
instructions were given to a monk who had probably been practicing
meditation for a long time and was already 'ripe' for awakening to
happen. Imagine how useful that instruction would be to a neophyte
coming off the street asking about the search for truth or something
similar. Joshu's instruction is just that - an instruction. That's why
i believe Buddha's skilful means (upaya) is so useful as a teaching
method. On the one side we can have the direct pointing to the Dharma
(Zen) and on the other we can have Therevada Buddhism with it's more
step by step instructions, such as following the Noble eightfold Path.
> >
> > The Buddha was very wise to understand that there are many
different kinds of people/cultures/personalities etc. out there and no
one method will work for all. I think it should be clear now that
"wash you bowls" just isn't going to work for someone like ED. If you
agree, what else could you say that might help him?
> >
> > Mike
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Bill! <BillSmart@>
> > To: [email protected] <mailto:Zen_Forum%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Sunday, 2 September 2012, 9:48
> > Subject: [Zen] Re: " dancing with the daffodils"
> >
> >
> > Â
> > ED,
> >
> > Mind if Joshu and I jump in?
> >
> > "WASH YOUR BOWLS!" That's how...Bill! (and Joshu)
> >
> > --- In [email protected]
<mailto:Zen_Forum%40yahoogroups.com>, "ED" <seacrofter001@> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Edgar,
> > >
> > > And how is this magic trick accomplished?
> > >
> > > --ED
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In [email protected]
<mailto:Zen_Forum%40yahoogroups.com>, Edgar Owen <edgarowen@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > ED,
> > > >
> > > > Stop practicing and just BE your Buddha Nature!
> > > >
> > > > Edgar
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > > Edgar,
> > > > >
> > > > > Therefore, although each of us is complete, we need to practice
> > > > > diligently at all times with no objective in mind?
> > > > >
> > > > > --ED
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > > > Joe and Merle,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > There is no 'goal' of enlightenment to be achieved without
which
> > > you
> > > > > imagine you are incomplete....
> > > > > >
> > > > > > There is no incompleteness. This understanding is an essential
> > > aspect
> > > > > of realization...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Wham!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Edgar
> > >
> >
>
