Edgar, Thanks. You do know it's dinner time here in the UK, right?
Mike ________________________________ From: Edgar Owen <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, 2 September 2012, 13:09 Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: " dancing with the daffodils" Mike, You mean you haven't seen Bill's naked zazen photos? :-) Edgar On Sep 2, 2012, at 7:59 AM, mike brown wrote: > > >Naked Yoga Forum? If that's run by you and Edgar, then I hope it's strictly >conducted in the written medium only. God forbid. > >Mike > > > > > > >________________________________ > From: Bill! <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] >Sent: Sunday, 2 September 2012, 12:53 >Subject: [Zen] Re: " dancing with the daffodils" > > > >I agree with Edgar! > >...and that's how we pump-up the post count so we can increase our commission >checks and some day retire to become moderators of the Yahoo! Naked Yoga Forum. > >...Bill! > >--- In [email protected], Edgar Owen <edgarowen@...> wrote: >> >> Bill!, Mike and ED, >> >> Yes, I'll continually fill your bowls with the gruel of realization while >> Bill! continually washes it right out of your bowls! again >> :-) >> >> EDgar >> >> >> >> On Sep 2, 2012, at 7:16 AM, Bill! wrote: >> >> > Mike and ED, >> > >> > Or how about...Just continue to exchange posts with Edgar. He's got what >> > seems to be an unlimited supply of rice gruel. He'll keep your bowl filled >> > to the brim! >> > >> > ...Bill! >> > >> > --- In [email protected], "Bill!" <BillSmart@> wrote: >> > > >> > > Mike, Point taken, but this is the Zen Forum, not the Theravada Forum or >> > > the Here-Have-Some-More-Rice-Gruel Forum. >> > > >> > > ED, Just sit. Don't think. Just sit. >> > > >> > > ...Bill! >> > > >> > > --- In [email protected], mike brown <uerusuboyo@> wrote: >> > > > >> > > > Bill!, >> > > > >> > > > A great instruction, and is certainly direct, but Joshu's instructions >> > > > were given to a monk who had probably been practicing meditation for a >> > > > long time and was already 'ripe' for awakening to happen. Imagine how >> > > > useful that instruction would be to a neophyte coming off the street >> > > > asking about the search for truth or something similar. Joshu's >> > > > instruction is just that - an instruction. That's why i believe >> > > > Buddha's skilful means (upaya) is so useful as a teaching method. On >> > > > the one side we can have the direct pointing to the Dharma (Zen) and >> > > > on the other we can have Therevada Buddhism with it's more step by >> > > > step instructions, such as following the Noble eightfold Path. >> > > > >> > > > The Buddha was very wise to understand that there are many different >> > > > kinds of people/cultures/personalities etc. out there and no one >> > > > method will work for all. I think it should be clear now that "wash >> > > > you bowls" just isn't going to work for someone like ED. If you agree, >> > > > what else could you say that might help him? >> > > > >> > > > Mike >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > ________________________________ >> > > > From: Bill! <BillSmart@> >> > > > To: [email protected] >> > > > Sent: Sunday, 2 September 2012, 9:48 >> > > > Subject: [Zen] Re: " dancing with the daffodils" >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > Â >> > > > ED, >> > > > >> > > > Mind if Joshu and I jump in? >> > > > >> > > > "WASH YOUR BOWLS!" That's how...Bill! (and Joshu) >> > > > >> > > > --- In [email protected], "ED" <seacrofter001@> wrote: >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > Edgar, >> > > > > >> > > > > And how is this magic trick accomplished? >> > > > > >> > > > > --ED >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > --- In [email protected], Edgar Owen <edgarowen@> wrote: >> > > > > > >> > > > > > ED, >> > > > > > >> > > > > > Stop practicing and just BE your Buddha Nature! >> > > > > > >> > > > > > Edgar >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > Edgar, >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > Therefore, although each of us is complete, we need to practice >> > > > > > > diligently at all times with no objective in mind? >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > --ED >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > Joe and Merle, >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > There is no 'goal' of enlightenment to be achieved without >> > > > > > > > which >> > > > > you >> > > > > > > imagine you are incomplete.... >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > There is no incompleteness. This understanding is an essential >> > > > > aspect >> > > > > > > of realization... >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Wham! >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Edgar >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > > > > > >
