Mike and Bill!, Yes I loved that line of Bill!'s too!
Edgar On Sep 2, 2012, at 7:39 AM, mike brown wrote: > > Bill!, > > lol at Edgar bringing food that wasn't even ordered! I also like your > description as you being the (zen) dish-washer. I'm quite content for now > just eating the meal Edgar brings me and the plates you wash after me. Thanks! > > Mike > > From: Bill! <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Sunday, 2 September 2012, 12:29 > Subject: [Zen] Re: " dancing with the daffodils" > > > Mike, > > I see it more like Edgar is the waiter bringing food (even some you didn't > order) and keeping your plate full. I'm more like the dishwasher trying my > best to scrape all the excess food off the plates. > > ...Bill! > > --- In [email protected], mike brown <uerusuboyo@...> wrote: > > > > Bill!, > > > > Sure. Wouldn't survive long without eating. I see Buddha's teachings as the > > chef and you and Edgar as the waiters tho. > > > > Bon appetite! > > > > Mike > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: Bill! <BillSmart@...> > > To: [email protected] > > Sent: Sunday, 2 September 2012, 12:16 > > Subject: [Zen] Re: " dancing with the daffodils" > > > > > >  > > Mike and ED, > > > > Or how about...Just continue to exchange posts with Edgar. He's got what > > seems to be an unlimited supply of rice gruel. He'll keep your bowl filled > > to the brim! > > > > ...Bill! > > > > --- In [email protected], "Bill!" <BillSmart@> wrote: > > > > > > Mike, Point taken, but this is the Zen Forum, not the Theravada Forum or > > > the Here-Have-Some-More-Rice-Gruel Forum. > > > > > > ED, Just sit. Don't think. Just sit. > > > > > > ...Bill! > > > > > > --- In [email protected], mike brown <uerusuboyo@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Bill!, > > > > > > > > A great instruction, and is certainly direct, but Joshu's instructions > > > > were given to a monk who had probably been practicing meditation for a > > > > long time and was already 'ripe' for awakening to happen. Imagine how > > > > useful that instruction would be to a neophyte coming off the street > > > > asking about the search for truth or something similar. Joshu's > > > > instruction is just that - an instruction. That's why i believe > > > > Buddha's skilful means (upaya) is so useful as a teaching method. On > > > > the one side we can have the direct pointing to the Dharma (Zen) and on > > > > the other we can have Therevada Buddhism with it's more step by step > > > > instructions, such as following the Noble eightfold Path. > > > > > > > > The Buddha was very wise to understand that there are many different > > > > kinds of people/cultures/personalities etc. out there and no one method > > > > will work for all. I think it should be clear now that "wash you bowls" > > > > just isn't going to work for someone like ED. If you agree, what else > > > > could you say that might help him? > > > > > > > > Mike > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > From: Bill! <BillSmart@> > > > > To: [email protected] > > > > Sent: Sunday, 2 September 2012, 9:48 > > > > Subject: [Zen] Re: " dancing with the daffodils" > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > ED, > > > > > > > > Mind if Joshu and I jump in? > > > > > > > > "WASH YOUR BOWLS!" That's how...Bill! (and Joshu) > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "ED" <seacrofter001@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Edgar, > > > > > > > > > > And how is this magic trick accomplished? > > > > > > > > > > --ED > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], Edgar Owen <edgarowen@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > ED, > > > > > > > > > > > > Stop practicing and just BE your Buddha Nature! > > > > > > > > > > > > Edgar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Edgar, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Therefore, although each of us is complete, we need to practice > > > > > > > diligently at all times with no objective in mind? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --ED > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Joe and Merle, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is no 'goal' of enlightenment to be achieved without which > > > > > you > > > > > > > imagine you are incomplete.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is no incompleteness. This understanding is an essential > > > > > aspect > > > > > > > of realization... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wham! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Edgar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
