i'll show you my pics if you show me yours...merle
Mike, Sorry for ruining your appetite! Maybe Merle's running naked through the daffodils site will restore it! :-) Edgar On Sep 2, 2012, at 8:14 AM, mike brown wrote: > > >Edgar, > >Thanks. You do know it's dinner time here in the UK, right? > >Mike > > > > >________________________________ > From: Edgar Owen <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] >Sent: Sunday, 2 September 2012, 13:09 >Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: " dancing with the daffodils" > > > >Mike, > > >You mean you haven't seen Bill's naked zazen photos? >:-) > > >Edgar > > > > > > >On Sep 2, 2012, at 7:59 AM, mike brown wrote: > > >> >> >>Naked Yoga Forum? If that's run by you and Edgar, then I hope it's strictly >>conducted in the written medium only. God forbid. >> >>Mike >> >> >> >> >> >> >>________________________________ >> From: Bill! <[email protected]> >>To: [email protected] >>Sent: Sunday, 2 September 2012, 12:53 >>Subject: [Zen] Re: " dancing with the daffodils" >> >> >> >>I agree with Edgar! >> >>...and that's how we pump-up the post count so we can increase our commission >>checks and some day retire to become moderators of the Yahoo! Naked Yoga >>Forum. >> >>...Bill! >> >>--- In [email protected], Edgar Owen <edgarowen@...> wrote: >>> >>> Bill!, Mike and ED, >>> >>> Yes, I'll continually fill your bowls with the gruel of realization while >>> Bill! continually washes it right out of your bowls! again >>> :-) >>> >>> EDgar >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sep 2, 2012, at 7:16 AM, Bill! wrote: >>> >>> > Mike and ED, >>> > >>> > Or how about...Just continue to exchange posts with Edgar. He's got what >>> > seems to be an unlimited supply of rice gruel. He'll keep your bowl >>> > filled to the brim! >>> > >>> > ...Bill! >>> > >>> > --- In [email protected], "Bill!" <BillSmart@> wrote: >>> > > >>> > > Mike, Point taken, but this is the Zen Forum, not the Theravada Forum >>> > > or the Here-Have-Some-More-Rice-Gruel Forum. >>> > > >>> > > ED, Just sit. Don't think. Just sit. >>> > > >>> > > ...Bill! >>> > > >>> > > --- In [email protected], mike brown <uerusuboyo@> wrote: >>> > > > >>> > > > Bill!, >>> > > > >>> > > > A great instruction, and is certainly direct, but Joshu's >>> > > > instructions were given to a monk who had probably been practicing >>> > > > meditation for a long time and was already 'ripe' for awakening to >>> > > > happen. Imagine how useful that instruction would be to a neophyte >>> > > > coming off the street asking about the search for truth or something >>> > > > similar. Joshu's instruction is just that - an instruction. That's >>> > > > why i believe Buddha's skilful means (upaya) is so useful as a >>> > > > teaching method. On the one side we can have the direct pointing to >>> > > > the Dharma (Zen) and on the other we can have Therevada Buddhism with >>> > > > it's more step by step instructions, such as following the Noble >>> > > > eightfold Path. >>> > > > >>> > > > The Buddha was very wise to understand that there are many different >>> > > > kinds of people/cultures/personalities etc. out there and no one >>> > > > method will work for all. I think it should be clear now that "wash >>> > > > you bowls" just isn't going to work for someone like ED. If you >>> > > > agree, what else could you say that might help him? >>> > > > >>> > > > Mike >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > ________________________________ >>> > > > From: Bill! <BillSmart@> >>> > > > To: [email protected] >>> > > > Sent: Sunday, 2 September 2012, 9:48 >>> > > > Subject: [Zen] Re: " dancing with the daffodils" >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > Â >>> > > > ED, >>> > > > >>> > > > Mind if Joshu and I jump in? >>> > > > >>> > > > "WASH YOUR BOWLS!" That's how...Bill! (and Joshu) >>> > > > >>> > > > --- In [email protected], "ED" <seacrofter001@> wrote: >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > Edgar, >>> > > > > >>> > > > > And how is this magic trick accomplished? >>> > > > > >>> > > > > --ED >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > --- In [email protected], Edgar Owen <edgarowen@> wrote: >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > ED, >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > Stop practicing and just BE your Buddha Nature! >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > Edgar >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > Edgar, >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > Therefore, although each of us is complete, we need to practice >>> > > > > > > diligently at all times with no objective in mind? >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > --ED >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > > Joe and Merle, >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > There is no 'goal' of enlightenment to be achieved without >>> > > > > > > > which >>> > > > > you >>> > > > > > > imagine you are incomplete.... >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > There is no incompleteness. This understanding is an essential >>> > > > > aspect >>> > > > > > > of realization... >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > Wham! >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > Edgar >>> > > > > >>> > > > >>> > > >>> > >>> > >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > >
