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From: Merle Lester <[email protected]>
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, 2 September 2012, 22:44
Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: " dancing with the daffodils"
i'll show you my pics if you show me yours...merle
Mike,
Sorry for ruining your appetite!
Maybe Merle's running naked through the daffodils site will restore it!
:-)
Edgar
On Sep 2, 2012, at 8:14 AM, mike brown wrote:
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>Thanks. You do know it's dinner time here in the UK, right?
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> From: Edgar Owen <[email protected]>
>To: [email protected]
>Sent: Sunday, 2 September 2012, 13:09
>Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: " dancing with the daffodils"
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>Mike,
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>You mean you haven't seen Bill's naked zazen photos?
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>On Sep 2, 2012, at 7:59 AM, mike brown wrote:
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>>Naked Yoga Forum? If that's run by you and Edgar, then I hope it's strictly
>>conducted in the written medium only. God forbid.
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>>Mike
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>> From: Bill! <[email protected]>
>>To: [email protected]
>>Sent: Sunday, 2 September 2012, 12:53
>>Subject: [Zen] Re: " dancing with the daffodils"
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>>I agree with Edgar!
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>>...and that's how we pump-up the post count so we can increase our commission
>>checks and some day retire to become moderators of the Yahoo! Naked Yoga
>>Forum.
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>>...Bill!
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>>--- In [email protected], Edgar Owen <edgarowen@...> wrote:
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>>> Bill!, Mike and ED,
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>>> Yes, I'll continually fill your bowls with the gruel of realization while
>>> Bill! continually washes it right out of your bowls! again
>>> :-)
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>>> EDgar
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>>> On Sep 2, 2012, at 7:16 AM, Bill! wrote:
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>>> > Mike and ED,
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>>> > Or how about...Just continue to exchange posts with Edgar. He's got what
>>> > seems to be an unlimited supply of rice gruel. He'll keep your bowl
>>> > filled to the brim!
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>>> > ...Bill!
>>> >
>>> > --- In [email protected], "Bill!" <BillSmart@> wrote:
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>>> > > Mike, Point taken, but this is the Zen Forum, not the Theravada Forum
>>> > > or the Here-Have-Some-More-Rice-Gruel Forum.
>>> > >
>>> > > ED, Just sit. Don't think. Just sit.
>>> > >
>>> > > ...Bill!
>>> > >
>>> > > --- In [email protected], mike brown <uerusuboyo@> wrote:
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>>> > > > Bill!,
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>>> > > > A great instruction, and is certainly direct, but Joshu's
>>> > > > instructions were given to a monk who had probably been practicing
>>> > > > meditation for a long time and was already 'ripe' for awakening to
>>> > > > happen. Imagine how useful that instruction would be to a neophyte
>>> > > > coming off the street asking about the search for truth or something
>>> > > > similar. Joshu's instruction is just that - an instruction. That's
>>> > > > why i believe Buddha's skilful means (upaya) is so useful as a
>>> > > > teaching method. On the one side we can have the direct pointing to
>>> > > > the Dharma (Zen) and on the other we can have Therevada Buddhism with
>>> > > > it's more step by step instructions, such as following the Noble
>>> > > > eightfold Path.
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>>> > > > The Buddha was very wise to understand that there are many different
>>> > > > kinds of people/cultures/personalities etc. out there and no one
>>> > > > method will work for all. I think it should be clear now that "wash
>>> > > > you bowls" just isn't going to work for someone like ED. If you
>>> > > > agree, what else could you say that might help him?
>>> > > >
>>> > > > Mike
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>>> > > >
>>> > > > ________________________________
>>> > > > From: Bill! <BillSmart@>
>>> > > > To: [email protected]
>>> > > > Sent: Sunday, 2 September 2012, 9:48
>>> > > > Subject: [Zen] Re: " dancing with the daffodils"
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>>> > > > Â
>>> > > > ED,
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>>> > > > Mind if Joshu and I jump in?
>>> > > >
>>> > > > "WASH YOUR BOWLS!" That's how...Bill! (and Joshu)
>>> > > >
>>> > > > --- In [email protected], "ED" <seacrofter001@> wrote:
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>>> > > > > Edgar,
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>>> > > > > And how is this magic trick accomplished?
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>>> > > > > --ED
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>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > --- In [email protected], Edgar Owen <edgarowen@> wrote:
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>>> > > > > > ED,
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>>> > > > > > Stop practicing and just BE your Buddha Nature!
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > > Edgar
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>>> > > > > > > Edgar,
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>>> > > > > > > Therefore, although each of us is complete, we need to practice
>>> > > > > > > diligently at all times with no objective in mind?
>>> > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > --ED
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>>> > > > > > > > Joe and Merle,
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>>> > > > > > > > There is no 'goal' of enlightenment to be achieved without
>>> > > > > > > > which
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>>> > > > > > > imagine you are incomplete....
>>> > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > There is no incompleteness. This understanding is an essential
>>> > > > > aspect
>>> > > > > > > of realization...
>>> > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > Wham!
>>> > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > Edgar
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