Bill! Zen is not a matter of not thinking...
It's a matter of thinking and doing everything else with realization. Don't just sit. Do everything in daily life with realization... That's Zen.. Zen is not a matter of 'sitting'. Get up off your ass and do some real Zen! Edgar On Sep 2, 2012, at 6:33 AM, Bill! wrote: > Mike, Point taken, but this is the Zen Forum, not the Theravada Forum or the > Here-Have-Some-More-Rice-Gruel Forum. > > ED, Just sit. Don't think. Just sit. > > ...Bill! > > --- In [email protected], mike brown <uerusuboyo@...> wrote: > > > > Bill!, > > > > A great instruction, and is certainly direct, but Joshu's instructions were > > given to a monk who had probably been practicing meditation for a long time > > and was already 'ripe' for awakening to happen. Imagine how useful that > > instruction would be to a neophyte coming off the street asking about the > > search for truth or something similar. Joshu's instruction is just that - > > an instruction. That's why i believe Buddha's skilful means (upaya) is so > > useful as a teaching method. On the one side we can have the direct > > pointing to the Dharma (Zen) and on the other we can have Therevada > > Buddhism with it's more step by step instructions, such as following the > > Noble eightfold Path. > > > > The Buddha was very wise to understand that there are many different kinds > > of people/cultures/personalities etc. out there and no one method will work > > for all. I think it should be clear now that "wash you bowls" just isn't > > going to work for someone like ED. If you agree, what else could you say > > that might help him? > > > > Mike > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: Bill! <BillSmart@...> > > To: [email protected] > > Sent: Sunday, 2 September 2012, 9:48 > > Subject: [Zen] Re: " dancing with the daffodils" > > > > > > Â > > ED, > > > > Mind if Joshu and I jump in? > > > > "WASH YOUR BOWLS!" That's how...Bill! (and Joshu) > > > > --- In [email protected], "ED" <seacrofter001@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Edgar, > > > > > > And how is this magic trick accomplished? > > > > > > --ED > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], Edgar Owen <edgarowen@> wrote: > > > > > > > > ED, > > > > > > > > Stop practicing and just BE your Buddha Nature! > > > > > > > > Edgar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Edgar, > > > > > > > > > > Therefore, although each of us is complete, we need to practice > > > > > diligently at all times with no objective in mind? > > > > > > > > > > --ED > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Joe and Merle, > > > > > > > > > > > > There is no 'goal' of enlightenment to be achieved without which > > > you > > > > > imagine you are incomplete.... > > > > > > > > > > > > There is no incompleteness. This understanding is an essential > > > aspect > > > > > of realization... > > > > > > > > > > > > Wham! > > > > > > > > > > > > Edgar > > > > > > >
