Either way, makes me out to be a thief. ;)

Silence cannot be shared, so we interrupt it with talking so as not to appear rude.


KG



On 9/8/2012 1:13 AM, Bill! wrote:

Kris,

When you say it I prefer 'Suchness'.

...Bill!

--- In [email protected] <mailto:Zen_Forum%40yahoogroups.com>, Kristopher Grey <kris@...> wrote:
>
> "More" or less, misses the point again.
>
> There is nothing to do to realize this. There is only this experiencing.
> 'You' and your 'experience(s)' of objects/events are but aspects of
> this, arising and passing. Nothing could be simpler.
>
> Some realize this some don't. Doesn't change this. How could it [rhet]?
> I realize you may only see and/or express this otherwise. Such is the
> nature of appearances. Suchness ("Just this" if you prefer).
>
> KG
>
>
> On 9/8/2012 12:11 AM, Bill! wrote:
> >
> > Kris,
> >
> > More important than whether or not either of these personages actually
> > existed or how accurate the [translated] 3rd-person accounts of what
> > they did and what they said is that YOU EXPERIENCE what they are said
> > to have experienced.
> >
> > And you can do that. I'm confident 10's of thousands or many more than
> > that have.
> >
> > ...Bill!
> >
> > --- In [email protected] <mailto:Zen_Forum%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:Zen_Forum%40yahoogroups.com>,
> > Kristopher Grey <kris@> wrote:
> > >
> > > On 9/7/2012 7:39 AM, mike brown wrote:
> > > > There is a *big* difference between these stories of Buddha and
> > > > Christ. With Buddha's story it makes no difference whether you
> > believe
> > > > Buddha was a real man or not...
> > >
> > > So one you accept more readily because you believe it to likely be
> > > allegorical, the other you reject because you believe it claims to be a
> > > factual historical account? Surely you can see the irony in this.
> > >
> > > Every consider both/neither? That it doesn't mater whether EITHER of
> > > these are stories of actual/factual others or not - as they only point
> > > to selfless realization, and reintegration/embodiment? That they're
> > only
> > > expressions of the way, and are not offering anyone else's
> > > stories/practices/promises as things to cling to or reject? People take
> > > that upon themselves.
> > >
> > > KG
> > >
> >
> >
>



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