Yes; and then what is your view of what talking is? What is the 'purpose' of 
your posts; WHY do you post?


Edgar



On Sep 8, 2012, at 2:04 PM, Kristopher Grey wrote:

> 
> 
> Silence is simply silence, only appearing rude when believed to be someones 
> silence.
> 
> KG
> 
> 
> 
> On 9/8/2012 7:18 AM, Edgar Owen wrote:
>>  
>> KG,
>> 
>> 
>> Sometimes the talking is ruder than the silence!
>> :-)
>> 
>> Edgar
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Sep 8, 2012, at 4:33 AM, Kristopher Grey wrote:
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>>>  
>>> 
>>> Either way, makes me out to be a thief. ;)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Silence cannot be shared, so we interrupt it with talking so as not to 
>>> appear rude.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> KG
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 9/8/2012 1:13 AM, Bill! wrote:
>>>>  
>>>> Kris,
>>>> 
>>>> When you say it I prefer 'Suchness'.
>>>> 
>>>> ...Bill!
>>>> 
>>>> --- In [email protected], Kristopher Grey <kris@...> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > "More" or less, misses the point again.
>>>> > 
>>>> > There is nothing to do to realize this. There is only this experiencing. 
>>>> > 'You' and your 'experience(s)' of objects/events are but aspects of 
>>>> > this, arising and passing. Nothing could be simpler.
>>>> > 
>>>> > Some realize this some don't. Doesn't change this. How could it [rhet]? 
>>>> > I realize you may only see and/or express this otherwise. Such is the 
>>>> > nature of appearances. Suchness ("Just this" if you prefer).
>>>> > 
>>>> > KG
>>>> > 
>>>> > 
>>>> > On 9/8/2012 12:11 AM, Bill! wrote:
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Kris,
>>>> > >
>>>> > > More important than whether or not either of these personages actually 
>>>> > > existed or how accurate the [translated] 3rd-person accounts of what 
>>>> > > they did and what they said is that YOU EXPERIENCE what they are said 
>>>> > > to have experienced.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > And you can do that. I'm confident 10's of thousands or many more than 
>>>> > > that have.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > ...Bill!
>>>> > >
>>>> > > --- In [email protected] <mailto:Zen_Forum%40yahoogroups.com>, 
>>>> > > Kristopher Grey <kris@> wrote:
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > On 9/7/2012 7:39 AM, mike brown wrote:
>>>> > > > > There is a *big* difference between these stories of Buddha and
>>>> > > > > Christ. With Buddha's story it makes no difference whether you 
>>>> > > believe
>>>> > > > > Buddha was a real man or not...
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > So one you accept more readily because you believe it to likely be
>>>> > > > allegorical, the other you reject because you believe it claims to 
>>>> > > > be a
>>>> > > > factual historical account? Surely you can see the irony in this.
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > Every consider both/neither? That it doesn't mater whether EITHER of
>>>> > > > these are stories of actual/factual others or not - as they only 
>>>> > > > point
>>>> > > > to selfless realization, and reintegration/embodiment? That they're 
>>>> > > only
>>>> > > > expressions of the way, and are not offering anyone else's
>>>> > > > stories/practices/promises as things to cling to or reject? People 
>>>> > > > take
>>>> > > > that upon themselves.
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > KG
>>>> > > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> 
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