KG, Sometimes the talking is ruder than the silence! :-)
Edgar On Sep 8, 2012, at 4:33 AM, Kristopher Grey wrote: > > Either way, makes me out to be a thief. ;) > > > Silence cannot be shared, so we interrupt it with talking so as not to appear > rude. > > > KG > > > > On 9/8/2012 1:13 AM, Bill! wrote: >> >> Kris, >> >> When you say it I prefer 'Suchness'. >> >> ...Bill! >> >> --- In [email protected], Kristopher Grey <kris@...> wrote: >> > >> > "More" or less, misses the point again. >> > >> > There is nothing to do to realize this. There is only this experiencing. >> > 'You' and your 'experience(s)' of objects/events are but aspects of >> > this, arising and passing. Nothing could be simpler. >> > >> > Some realize this some don't. Doesn't change this. How could it [rhet]? >> > I realize you may only see and/or express this otherwise. Such is the >> > nature of appearances. Suchness ("Just this" if you prefer). >> > >> > KG >> > >> > >> > On 9/8/2012 12:11 AM, Bill! wrote: >> > > >> > > Kris, >> > > >> > > More important than whether or not either of these personages actually >> > > existed or how accurate the [translated] 3rd-person accounts of what >> > > they did and what they said is that YOU EXPERIENCE what they are said >> > > to have experienced. >> > > >> > > And you can do that. I'm confident 10's of thousands or many more than >> > > that have. >> > > >> > > ...Bill! >> > > >> > > --- In [email protected] <mailto:Zen_Forum%40yahoogroups.com>, >> > > Kristopher Grey <kris@> wrote: >> > > > >> > > > On 9/7/2012 7:39 AM, mike brown wrote: >> > > > > There is a *big* difference between these stories of Buddha and >> > > > > Christ. With Buddha's story it makes no difference whether you >> > > believe >> > > > > Buddha was a real man or not... >> > > > >> > > > So one you accept more readily because you believe it to likely be >> > > > allegorical, the other you reject because you believe it claims to be a >> > > > factual historical account? Surely you can see the irony in this. >> > > > >> > > > Every consider both/neither? That it doesn't mater whether EITHER of >> > > > these are stories of actual/factual others or not - as they only point >> > > > to selfless realization, and reintegration/embodiment? That they're >> > > only >> > > > expressions of the way, and are not offering anyone else's >> > > > stories/practices/promises as things to cling to or reject? People take >> > > > that upon themselves. >> > > > >> > > > KG >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > >
