Here is south Louisiana it sometimes happens that hunters will set fire to one 
side of a marsh and other hunters would stand outside of the marsh, usually 
across a bit of open water, and then shoot the animals that run towards them 
from the fire.   A similar technique was used by hunters in Ohio years ago.  
One 
group of hunters would walk though a wooded area flushing out the animals while 
another group would stand along a roadway and wait for the animals to run out 
of 
the woods.  Brutal. My father took me a hunting for rabbits and pheasant few 
times when I was a child, I was allowed a sling shot.  I liked the big boom of 
the 12 gauge shotgun (I shot skeet) but I could never see the enjoyment in 
killing anything.  I used to bury the fish that I caught when he took me 
fishing.  Funny thing is that every fish that I ever buried must have 
been eaten 
by other animals, because it never failed that, the next day the small grave 
would be empty.
 Bill 




Find what makes your heart sing…and do it! 




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From: Edgar Owen <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Mon, September 10, 2012 6:07:15 PM
Subject: Re: [Zen] suffering

  
KG, 

I do feed them some corn and table scraps but I live on 16 acres and there are 
plenty of other things for them to eat too. There are many deer around this 
area 
and most are fairly tame...

Of course the hunters bait them by dumping corn under their tree stands and 
shooting them when they come to feed....

To me that's a huge betrayal of trust, to feed an animal so you can then kill 
it...

Edgar






On Sep 10, 2012, at 3:41 PM, Kristopher Grey wrote:

  
>
>
> Edgar,
>
>Do you feed them, or (perhaps unintentionally) present feeding opportunities 
>with grass/garden,  and thereby acclimate them to human presence? Just a 
>thought, an interrelated aspect, not a judgment.
>
>KG
>
>
>
>
>On 9/10/2012 6:48 AM, Edgar Owen wrote:
>
>  
>>Merle,
>>
>>
>>I have the same problem with people killing animals. Today is the first day 
>>of 
>>deer hunting season here in NJ. Since I've lived here I've had continual 
>>problems with hunters in all sorts of ways and have continually fought to 
>>deter 
>>and prevent them, in particular from killing the wonderful deer family that 
>>hangs out in my front yard and comes right up to me when I come out the door.
>>
>>
>>It's a continual test of my Zen! And a continual lesson that Zen can indeed 
>>be 
>>active in the world...
>>
>>
>>Edgar
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>On Sep 10, 2012, at 3:49 AM, Merle Lester wrote:
>>
>>  
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> i dunno about you folk out there but i am no good at suffering... firstly 
>>>my 
>>>own and secondly witnessing others...human, animal or vegetable... 
>>>suffering is no way to live
>>>
>>>Merle
>>>www.wix.com/merlewiitpom/1
>>>
>>>
>>



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