YES!!!!!
Suffering is an integral part of most 'mental models' - ALL of them as
far as I know.
...Bill!
--- In [email protected], Kristopher Grey <kris@...> wrote:
>
> Stop squirming and answer the question! *L*
>
> I'll rephrase it for you to reduce wiggle room: Is 'suffering' a form
> of 'mental model'?
>
> KG
>
> On 9/12/2012 3:14 AM, billsmart wrote:
> >
> > Kris,
> >
> > 'My opinion' is my default 'mental model', or I guess I could call
it
> > 'Bill!'s mental model'. It is the default model I use to communicate
> > with others. Is it a better (closer to Reality) 'mental model' than
> > others? I couldn't claim that, but I can say it's the most
comfortable
> > for me.
> >
> > I posted many posts ago about having and using different 'tools in
my
> > tool bag'. Another way to say this is that I believe I can
communicate
> > using different 'mental models' - like the scientific 'mental model'
> > with Edgar, and the Christian 'mental model' with Merle, and the
> > Buddhist 'mental model' which those on the site who prefer that.
> >
> > I know I'm just simulating the other 'mental models', like a MAC OS
> > simulating a WIN OS to be able to run WIN-specific applications, but
I
> > think that's better than trying to force everyone to communicate
using
> > my default 'mental model' all the time.
> >
> > ...Bill!
> >
> > --- In [email protected]
<mailto:Zen_Forum%40yahoogroups.com>,
> > Kristopher Grey kris@ wrote:
> > >
> > > On 9/11/2012 9:23 PM, Bill! wrote:
> > > > Pain is real. Suffering (in the way the term is used in
Buddhism) is
> > > > not real. It's a 'mental model' (aka 'illusion') which is the
result
> > > > of attachments which are in turn dependent upon the creation of
the
> > > > dualistic concept of 'self'.
> > > >
> > > > That's IMO anyway...
> > >
> > > Is the opinion 'real'?
> > >
> > > If so, then 'suffering' as a 'mental mode' is real in the same
way. If
> > > not, there's no suffering and no opinions of it.
> > >
> > > Either way, these appear. Only the form of expression differs.
> > > Real/unreal is just more thinking. No problem. Really. ;)
> > >
> > > KG
> > >
> >
> >
>
