Stop squirming and answer the question! *L*
I'll rephrase it for you to reduce wiggle room: Is 'suffering' a form
of 'mental model'?
KG
On 9/12/2012 3:14 AM, billsmart wrote:
Kris,
'My opinion' is my default 'mental model', or I guess I could call it
'Bill!'s mental model'. It is the default model I use to communicate
with others. Is it a better (closer to Reality) 'mental model' than
others? I couldn't claim that, but I can say it's the most comfortable
for me.
I posted many posts ago about having and using different 'tools in my
tool bag'. Another way to say this is that I believe I can communicate
using different 'mental models' - like the scientific 'mental model'
with Edgar, and the Christian 'mental model' with Merle, and the
Buddhist 'mental model' which those on the site who prefer that.
I know I'm just simulating the other 'mental models', like a MAC OS
simulating a WIN OS to be able to run WIN-specific applications, but I
think that's better than trying to force everyone to communicate using
my default 'mental model' all the time.
...Bill!
--- In [email protected] <mailto:Zen_Forum%40yahoogroups.com>,
Kristopher Grey <kris@...> wrote:
>
> On 9/11/2012 9:23 PM, Bill! wrote:
> > Pain is real. Suffering (in the way the term is used in Buddhism) is
> > not real. It's a 'mental model' (aka 'illusion') which is the result
> > of attachments which are in turn dependent upon the creation of the
> > dualistic concept of 'self'.
> >
> > That's IMO anyway...
>
> Is the opinion 'real'?
>
> If so, then 'suffering' as a 'mental mode' is real in the same way. If
> not, there's no suffering and no opinions of it.
>
> Either way, these appear. Only the form of expression differs.
> Real/unreal is just more thinking. No problem. Really. ;)
>
> KG
>
