When we think of 'mindfulness', we may think of not being distracted, but distraction fills the mind just as effectively. Silence, is the ultimate distraction.

Concentration or distraction, different in form only. Both are moments of attention to this and not that, in that moment, then gone. Effort applied to cultivate mindfulness is often merely a distraction from distractions. Mindfulness presents formlessly in all forms. Attempts to be mindful, to wrest it from the rest, naturally will fail to grasp this.

Concentration cannot free the mind, distraction cannot hold it. Thoughts come and go effortlessly. This is not a problem. Following them or ignoring them, grasping and rejecting them - in relation to self - reveals ordinary mind's habitual ignorance of Original mind.

Mindfulness allows dis-tractions to serve as reminders not to seek traction.

KG








On 9/21/2012 1:51 AM, Anthony Wu wrote:
Bill!,
Some guests are stubborn. You can tell them you are busy or write down what they want, they still insist on sitting on your sofa and making tea out of your teapot. Master Seung Sahn has a koan where a burly man keeps dropping ash on a Buddha image, and nothing can dissuage them. He is also strong that there is no way you or your family can beat him. What should you do? I have not had the answer to this koan.
Anthony

*From:* Bill! <[email protected]>
*To:* [email protected]
*Sent:* Friday, 21 September 2012, 9:40
*Subject:* Re: [Zen] invasion

Anthony,

I was always told to just let the thoughts 'flow through you', acknowledge them but then let them go. The teaching analogy that went with this is 'when you're busy working in your house and someone comes and knocks on your door, acknowledge them but tell them you're busy and ask them to come back later. Don't invite them in for tea and a conversation.'

Some zen practitioners I know suggest keeping a notebook and pen/pencil near you when you meditate. That way if a thought comes that you just cannot get rid of you can write it down, and then can go back to meditating with the assurance you will attend to the thought later.

I've never done that nor felt the need to do that, but it might be worth a try if these thoughts/questions are keeping you from meditating.

...Bill!

--- In mailto:Zen_Forum%40yahoogroups.com, Anthony Wu <wuasg@...> wrote:
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> KG,
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> Some say you should not suppress questions when you meditate, but let them come and go. Well they come here to stay. It takes time and effort to make them disappear.
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> Anthony
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> From: Kristopher Grey <kris@...>
> To: mailto:Zen_Forum%40yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, 20 September 2012, 9:38
> Subject: Re: [Zen] invasion
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> Same problem is created by attachment to thinking "well" applies to meditation! *L*
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> Your "tip", perhaps pointier than it may appear! ;)
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> KG
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> On 9/19/2012 6:09 PM, Anthony Wu wrote:
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> >Merle,
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> >I give yo a tip. If you always want questions to be answered, you can never meditate well.
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> >Anthony
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