Merle, I was referring to Molly Bloom's soliloquy closing out Joyce's ULYSSES. It's one of the most moving pieces of writing I have ever read:
"...I was a Flower of the mountain yes when I put the rose in my hair like the Andalusian girls used or shall I wear a red yes and how he kissed me under the Moorish wall and I thought well as well him as another and then I asked him with my eyes to ask again yes and then he asked me would I yes to say yes my mountain flower and first I put my arms around him yes and drew him down to me so he could feel my breasts all perfume yes and his heart was going like mad and yes I said yes I will Yes." ...Bill! --- In [email protected], Merle Lester <merlewiitpom@...> wrote: > >  if you can recall..or google if you do not believe me..john lennon went to > an art gallery to see the work of yoko ono..there was a ladder he climbed and > on the ceiling written in small small writing was the word yes...,,,, he > climbed down from the ladder and relationship of him an yoko was cemented.... > he had not met her before....if memory serves me correct...merle > > >  > Kris calls it 'suchness'. I call it 'Just THIS!'. JMJM calls it 'As Is'. > It appears both Merle and James Joyce call it 'Yes Yes Yes'. > > ...Bill! > > --- In [email protected], Merle Lester <merlewiitpom@> wrote: > > > > > > > > thank you.... yes yes yes yes...merle > > > > > > à> > Hi Merle,àYou probably don't.àMany of us still do.àAll forms > > exist for a reason.àJust some of us don't know.àThat's called > > delusion.àSome may argue, no need to know, then we are back to square > > one, which is what you stated, everything is right in front of us.àKG > > calls it suchness. Bill calls is Just This.àI call it As Is.àMaybe > > a little different in the original definition, but close enough.àWho > > really cares?à:-) > > > > We are all merely pointing... point...àpoint... point...ànot > > outward, but inward... always outside in.. > > > > Enjoy...à> > > > > > On 9/21/2012 2:31 PM, Merle Lester wrote: > > > > à> > > > > > > > >à> > >JM.... why would we pick and choose in the mud.? > > > > > > > > >.all that we see hear and touch is there and there is always more than > > >enough.. > > > > > > > > >.merle > > > > > > > > >à> > >Well Merle.àNicely said. Also sounds simple and wunderbar.àFor a > > >lotus to blossom however,àlots of mud is needed.àIf we pick and > > >choose in the mud, there will be insufficient nutrients.à:-) > > > > > > > > > > > >On 9/21/2012 2:18 PM, Merle Lester wrote: > > > > > >à> > >> > > >> > > >>JM...yes yes yes open the heart and the lotus will be there....... merle > > >> > > >> > > >>à> > >>Indeed, KG.àThank you. > > >> > > >>We use the following > > instructions -- "Focus and not > > focus. Observe all and > > every."àThen you see the > > wisdom in all. > > >> > > >>Even during chakra focusing, > > it is not a mental focusing.à> > We need to relax the mind, in > > order to sense with our > > heart.àHeart is where our > > spirit reside.àPure heart > > means pure awareness.à> > >> > > >>Again, a few people, such as > > Anthony or Bill may "disagree" > > as usual.ààà:-) > > àààIt's actually an experience and not a dogma. > > >> > > >>Newest translation of an old > > saying(probably version 7), of > > this phrase from Buddha, "Cast > > not in words. Transmit beyond > > teaching." > > >> > > >>BTW, my team is working on > > translating "Practice and > > Witness Diamond Sutra" from > > our Shifu.àI know. I know. > > It's courageous.àIf there is > > any online version of Diamond > > Sutra you sync with, please > > share with me.àMuch obliged. > > >> > > >>jm > > >> > > >> > > >>On 9/21/2012 9:18 AM, Kristopher Grey wrote: > > >> > > >>à> > >>> > > >>>When we think of > > 'mindfulness', we may > > think of not being > > distracted, but > > distraction fills the mind > > just as effectively. > > Silence, is the ultimate > > distraction. > > >>> > > >>>Concentration or > > distraction, different in > > form only. Both are > > moments of attention to > > this and not that, in that > > moment, then gone. Effort > > applied to cultivate > > mindfulness is often > > merely a distraction from > > distractions. Mindfulness > > presents formlessly in all > > forms. Attempts to be > > mindful, to wrest it from > > the rest, naturally will > > fail to grasp this. > > >>> > > >>>Concentration cannot free > > the mind, distraction > > cannot hold it. Thoughts > > come and go effortlessly. > > This is not a problem. > > Following them or ignoring > > them, grasping and > > rejecting them - in > > relation to self - reveals > > ordinary mind's habitual > > ignorance of Original > > mind. > > >>> > > >>>Mindfulness allows > > dis-tractions to serve as > > reminders not to seek > > traction. > > >>> > > >>>KG > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>On 9/21/2012 1:51 AM, > > Anthony Wu wrote: > > >>> > > >>>à> > >>>>Bill!, > > >>>>à> > >>>>Some guests are stubborn. You can tell them you are busy or write down > > >>>>what they want, they still insist on sitting on your sofa and making > > >>>>tea out of your teapot. Master Seung Sahn has a koan where a burly man > > >>>>keeps dropping ash on a Buddha image, and nothing can dissuage them. He > > >>>>is also strong that there is no way you or your family can beat him. > > >>>>What should you do? I have not had the answer to this koan. > > >>>>à> > >>>>Anthony > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>>From: Bill! <BillSmart@> > > >>>>To: [email protected] > > >>>>Sent: Friday, 21 September 2012, 9:40 > > >>>>Subject: Re: [Zen] invasion > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>>à> > >>>>Anthony, > > >>>> > > >>>>I was always > > told to just > > let the > > thoughts 'flow > > through you', > > acknowledge > > them but then > > let them go. > > The teaching > > analogy that > > went with this > > is 'when > > you're busy > > working in > > your house and > > someone comes > > and knocks on > > your door, > > acknowledge > > them but tell > > them you're > > busy and ask > > them to come > > back later. > > Don't invite > > them in for > > tea and a > > conversation.' > > >>>> > > >>>>Some zen > > practitioners > > I know suggest > > keeping a > > notebook and > > pen/pencil > > near you when > > you meditate. > > That way if a > > thought comes > > that you just > > cannot get rid > > of you can > > write it down, > > and then can > > go back to > > meditating > > with the > > assurance you > > will attend to > > the thought > > later. > > >>>> > > >>>>I've never > > done that nor > > felt the need > > to do that, > > but it might > > be worth a try > > if these > > thoughts/questions > > are keeping > > you from > > meditating. > > >>>> > > >>>>...Bill! > > >>>> > > >>>>--- In mailto:Zen_Forum%40yahoogroups.com, Anthony Wu <wuasg@> wrote: > > >>>>> > > >>>>> KG, > > >>>>> Ãâà> > >>>>> Some say > > you should not > > suppress > > questions when > > you meditate, > > but let them > > come and go. > > Well they come > > here to stay. > > It takes time > > and effort to > > make them > > disappear. > > >>>>> Ãâà> > >>>>> Anthony > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > > > ________________________________ > > >>>>> From: > > Kristopher > > Grey <kris@> > > >>>>> To: mailto:Zen_Forum%40yahoogroups.com > > >>>>> Sent: > > Thursday, 20 > > September > > 2012, 9:38 > > >>>>> Subject: > > Re: [Zen] > > invasion > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Ãâà> > >>>>> Same > > problem is > > created by > > attachment to > > thinking > > "well" applies > > to meditation! > > *L* > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Your > > "tip", perhaps > > pointier than > > it may appear! > > ;) > > >>>>> > > >>>>> KG > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> On > > 9/19/2012 6:09 > > PM, Anthony Wu > > wrote: > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Ãâà> > >>>>> > > >Merle, > > >>>>> >Ãâà> > >>>>> >I > > give yo a tip. > > If you always > > want questions > > to be > > answered, you > > can never > > meditate well. > > >>>>> >Ãâà> > >>>>> > > >Anthony > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! 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