JM...yes yes yes open the heart and the lotus will be there....... merle
Indeed, KG. Thank you.
We use the following instructions -- "Focus and not focus. Observe
all and every." Then you see the wisdom in all.
Even during chakra focusing, it is not a mental focusing. We need
to relax the mind, in order to sense with our heart. Heart is where
our spirit reside. Pure heart means pure awareness.
Again, a few people, such as Anthony or Bill may "disagree" as
usual. :-) It's actually an experience and not a dogma.
Newest translation of an old saying(probably version 7), of this
phrase from Buddha, "Cast not in words. Transmit beyond teaching."
BTW, my team is working on translating "Practice and Witness Diamond
Sutra" from our Shifu. I know. I know. It's courageous. If there
is any online version of Diamond Sutra you sync with, please share
with me. Much obliged.
jm
On 9/21/2012 9:18 AM, Kristopher Grey wrote:
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>When we think of 'mindfulness', we may think of not being
distracted, but distraction fills the mind just as
effectively. Silence, is the ultimate distraction.
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>Concentration or distraction, different in form only. Both
are moments of attention to this and not that, in that
moment, then gone. Effort applied to cultivate mindfulness
is often merely a distraction from distractions.
Mindfulness presents formlessly in all forms. Attempts to
be mindful, to wrest it from the rest, naturally will fail
to grasp this.
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>Concentration cannot free the mind, distraction cannot
hold it. Thoughts come and go effortlessly. This is not a
problem. Following them or ignoring them, grasping and
rejecting them - in relation to self - reveals ordinary
mind's habitual ignorance of Original mind.
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>Mindfulness allows dis-tractions to serve as reminders not
to seek traction.
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>On 9/21/2012 1:51 AM, Anthony Wu wrote:
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>>Bill!,
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>>Some guests are stubborn. You can tell them you are busy or write down what
>>they want, they still insist on sitting on your sofa and making tea out of
>>your teapot. Master Seung Sahn has a koan where a burly man keeps dropping
>>ash on a Buddha image, and nothing can dissuage them. He is also strong that
>>there is no way you or your family can beat him. What should you do? I have
>>not had the answer to this koan.
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>>Anthony
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>>From: Bill! <[email protected]>
>>To: [email protected]
>>Sent: Friday, 21 September 2012, 9:40
>>Subject: Re: [Zen] invasion
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>>Anthony,
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>>I was always told to just let the thoughts
'flow through you', acknowledge them but
then let them go. The teaching analogy
that went with this is 'when you're busy
working in your house and someone comes
and knocks on your door, acknowledge them
but tell them you're busy and ask them to
come back later. Don't invite them in for
tea and a conversation.'
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>>Some zen practitioners I know suggest
keeping a notebook and pen/pencil near you
when you meditate. That way if a thought
comes that you just cannot get rid of you
can write it down, and then can go back to
meditating with the assurance you will
attend to the thought later.
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>>I've never done that nor felt the need to
do that, but it might be worth a try if
these thoughts/questions are keeping you
from meditating.
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>>...Bill!
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>>--- In mailto:Zen_Forum%40yahoogroups.com, Anthony Wu <wuasg@...> wrote:
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>>> KG,
>>> Â
>>> Some say you should not suppress
questions when you meditate, but let them
come and go. Well they come here to stay.
It takes time and effort to make them
disappear.
>>> Â
>>> Anthony
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>>> ________________________________
>>> From: Kristopher Grey <kris@...>
>>> To: mailto:Zen_Forum%40yahoogroups.com
>>> Sent: Thursday, 20 September 2012,
9:38
>>> Subject: Re: [Zen] invasion
>>>
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>>> Same problem is created by attachment
to thinking "well" applies to meditation!
*L*
>>>
>>> Your "tip", perhaps pointier than it
may appear! ;)
>>>
>>> KG
>>>
>>>
>>> On 9/19/2012 6:09 PM, Anthony Wu
wrote:
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>>> >Merle,
>>> >Â
>>> >I give yo a tip. If you always
want questions to be answered, you can
never meditate well.
>>> >Â
>>> >Anthony
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