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From: Kristopher Grey <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, 10 October 2012, 15:58
Compassion to me is when love meets suffering. Clearly an unrepentant killer
(as opposed to someone who has killed) fails the definition.
The kind of peace a killer might find isn't the kind of peace I'm talking about
either, which is the peace born from being free from the 5 Hindrances. This
isn't an assumpmtion/projection, but is born from experience (I'm ex-infantry
and have seen murder committed not 10 feet away from me). Even thoughts of
violence shatter this peace.
Mike
To say a killer will never know peace? Part presumption, part projection.
Emanating from a kind heart perhaps, but compassion doesn't bother with/isn't
bothered by this.
KG
On 10/10/2012 6:57 AM, mike brown wrote:
>Edgar,
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>We're all going to die - it's how we live our life up to that point (there is
>no 'after' death, or indeed any such thing as 'death' to feel bad about being
>killed anyway). Yes, I'd rather be killed than be the killer. A killer will
>never know peace.
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>>Get real!
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>Keeping it real.
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>Mike
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> From: Edgar Owen <[email protected]>
>To: [email protected]
>Sent: Wednesday, 10 October 2012, 11:45
>Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: I need some practice advice
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>Mike,
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>Total crap!
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>OK, let's put it to the test. I'll send someone over to kill you and then I'll
>feel bad about it.
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>Will you opt out because of your life or me feeling bad about it?
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>Get real!
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>Edgar
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>On Oct 10, 2012, at 5:34 AM, mike brown wrote:
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>>Edgar,
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>>>It matters to the animals which
is much more important .....
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>>I'm not so sure. I think it could be
said that a person who causes death,
or injury, to another actually
suffers more than the person/animal
harmed. But then again, I'm an old
school First Noble Truth kinda guy.
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>>Mike
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>>________________________________
>> From: Edgar Owen <[email protected]>
>>To: [email protected]
>>Sent: Wednesday, 10 October 2012, 0:59
>>Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: I need some practice advice
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>>KG,
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>>How egocentric!
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>>It matters to the animals which is much more important .....
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>>Edgar
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>>On Oct 9, 2012, at 7:43 PM, Kristopher Grey wrote:
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>>>FWIW - 'I' am my "indoor pet" and, yes I am surgically sterilized.
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>>>What people do
wth animals is
of less
concern than
the shit they
tell
themselves to
justify it.
Until that's
sorted out,
the rest is an
ego fest.
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>>>KG
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>>>On 10/9/2012
11:40 AM, Joe
wrote:
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>>>>Edgar,
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>>>>My indoor pets
are neutered.
Aren't yours?
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>>>>You may be an
animal-breeder,
then; a
lucrative
vocation/avocation.
>>>>
>>>>--Joe
>>>>
>>>>PS You must be
a vegetarian
then if you
are not a
cannibal, or
Zombie.
>>>>
>>>>PPS May I
visit you in
the stir for
stepping on
that ant?
>>>>
>>>>> Edgar
Owen <edgarowen@...>
wrote:
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>>>>> Joe and
Merle,
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>>>>> Any valid
ethical
principle must
apply equally
well to both
humans and
other
species....
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