Edgar,

Very interesting about the crucifixion detail, and the Romans.  BTW, are you a 
Classical historian, or Religious historian, perhaps?

I envisioned the Chinese wiping stick as something in effect like an 
ice-scraper for windshields.  I just don't know.

--Joe

> Edgar Owen <edgarowen@...> wrote:
>
> Joe, Merle, etc.
> 
> It wasn't just a stick but a stick wrapped in something soft. [snip]



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