Suresh,

Well, yes and no. Your own nature IS Buddha nature...

Edgar



On Oct 24, 2012, at 8:55 PM, SURESH JAGADEESAN wrote:

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> Zen is not on how to attain buddha nature rather it is how to dissolve your 
> own nature.
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> suresh
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> On Oct 25, 2012 5:31 AM, "Merle Lester" <[email protected]> wrote:
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>  yuk!.... merle
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> Joe, Merle, etc.
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> It wasn't just a stick but a stick wrapped in something soft. I don't know 
> what the orientals wrapped them in but these were used by the Romans for 
> example where a sponge was wrapped around a stick. The sponges would be 
> dipped in water or more often vinegar to clean the bottom after defecating. 
> They were left beside the seats at public latrines for common use.
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> In fact that is exactly what was used by the Roman soldiers when Jesus was on 
> the cross and asked for water. Instead they held up a shit wiping stick 
> dipped in vinegar to his mouth.
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> A little known historical fact!
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> Edgar
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> On Oct 23, 2012, at 6:42 PM, Joe wrote:
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>> Merle,
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>> The latter, I think. I imagine it was fashioned in the form of a flat blade, 
>> like a palette-knife, or putty knife, probably from a broad thin piece of 
>> architectural bamboo.
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>> It must have been a common enough accessory in use at the Ch'an monasteries, 
>> some of which housed hundreds of monks or nuns, and the latrines must have 
>> been extensive. And so the Master made use of the stick as an example, in 
>> his teaching.
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>> Others might have answered, "The Oak Tree in the court yard" (but at some of 
>> the monasteries on high mountains, Oaks did not grow, but mostly Pines 
>> did/do). Bamboo could be brought up from below, for building, and for 
>> implements.
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>> Still others might have answered, "Just THIS!".
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>> The Master was very compassionate, bringing the student back into the "here 
>> and now" with what he said and how he said it.
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>> --Joe
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>> > Merle Lester <merlewiitpom@...> wrote:
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>> > huh??????? wiping what.... the toilet or the arse?..
>> > so it's an arse wiping stick?
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