Hi all

Who wants to question? Who seeks answer? What is that he wants? Why no
answers fullfill him?

Suresh

On 10/25/12, Edgar Owen <[email protected]> wrote:
> Suresh,
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> Well, yes and no. Your own nature IS Buddha nature...
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> Edgar
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> On Oct 24, 2012, at 8:55 PM, SURESH JAGADEESAN wrote:
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>> Zen is not on how to attain buddha nature rather it is how to dissolve
>> your own nature.
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>> suresh
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>> On Oct 25, 2012 5:31 AM, "Merle Lester" <[email protected]> wrote:
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>>  yuk!.... merle
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>> Joe, Merle, etc.
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>> It wasn't just a stick but a stick wrapped in something soft. I don't know
>> what the orientals wrapped them in but these were used by the Romans for
>> example where a sponge was wrapped around a stick. The sponges would be
>> dipped in water or more often vinegar to clean the bottom after
>> defecating. They were left beside the seats at public latrines for common
>> use.
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>> In fact that is exactly what was used by the Roman soldiers when Jesus was
>> on the cross and asked for water. Instead they held up a shit wiping stick
>> dipped in vinegar to his mouth.
>>
>> A little known historical fact!
>>
>> Edgar
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>> On Oct 23, 2012, at 6:42 PM, Joe wrote:
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>>>
>>> Merle,
>>>
>>> The latter, I think. I imagine it was fashioned in the form of a flat
>>> blade, like a palette-knife, or putty knife, probably from a broad thin
>>> piece of architectural bamboo.
>>>
>>> It must have been a common enough accessory in use at the Ch'an
>>> monasteries, some of which housed hundreds of monks or nuns, and the
>>> latrines must have been extensive. And so the Master made use of the
>>> stick as an example, in his teaching.
>>>
>>> Others might have answered, "The Oak Tree in the court yard" (but at some
>>> of the monasteries on high mountains, Oaks did not grow, but mostly Pines
>>> did/do). Bamboo could be brought up from below, for building, and for
>>> implements.
>>>
>>> Still others might have answered, "Just THIS!".
>>>
>>> The Master was very compassionate, bringing the student back into the
>>> "here and now" with what he said and how he said it.
>>>
>>> --Joe
>>>
>>> > Merle Lester <merlewiitpom@...> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > huh??????? wiping what.... the toilet or the arse?..
>>> > so it's an arse wiping stick?
>>>
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