Zen is not on how to attain buddha nature rather it is how to dissolve your
own nature.

suresh
On Oct 25, 2012 5:31 AM, "Merle Lester" <[email protected]> wrote:

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>  yuk!.... merle
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> Joe, Merle, etc.
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> It wasn't just a stick but a stick wrapped in something soft. I don't know
> what the orientals wrapped them in but these were used by the Romans for
> example where a sponge was wrapped around a stick. The sponges would be
> dipped in water or more often vinegar to clean the bottom after defecating.
> They were left beside the seats at public latrines for common use.
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> In fact that is exactly what was used by the Roman soldiers when Jesus was
> on the cross and asked for water. Instead they held up a shit wiping stick
> dipped in vinegar to his mouth.
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> A little known historical fact!
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> Edgar
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> On Oct 23, 2012, at 6:42 PM, Joe wrote:
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> Merle,
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> The latter, I think. I imagine it was fashioned in the form of a flat
> blade, like a palette-knife, or putty knife, probably from a broad thin
> piece of architectural bamboo.
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> It must have been a common enough accessory in use at the Ch'an
> monasteries, some of which housed hundreds of monks or nuns, and the
> latrines must have been extensive. And so the Master made use of the stick
> as an example, in his teaching.
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> Others might have answered, "The Oak Tree in the court yard" (but at some
> of the monasteries on high mountains, Oaks did not grow, but mostly Pines
> did/do). Bamboo could be brought up from below, for building, and for
> implements.
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> Still others might have answered, "Just THIS!".
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> The Master was very compassionate, bringing the student back into the
> "here and now" with what he said and how he said it.
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> --Joe
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> > Merle Lester <merlewiitpom@...> wrote:
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> > huh??????? wiping what.... the toilet or the arse?..
> > so it's an arse wiping stick?
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