Joe,

There are more foxes on this forum than there are fox-furs at a Mitt Romney 
fund-raiser. Just to push the analogy a little further, people here switch from 
the Absolute to the relative with the same ease Romney does with his (alleged) 
policies. Sometimes it suits them to do so, sometimes they just don't know 
they're doing it.

Mike




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 From: Joe <[email protected]>
To: [email protected] 
Sent: Wednesday, 24 October 2012, 18:29
Subject: Re: [Zen] Why Meditate?
 

  
Edgar,

Now, what reality is that? (you see the problem you cause?).

I see it that way, too, vis-a-vis nothing being wasted.

But of course the teacher is being pedagogical, and compassionate:  That's his 
reason for being.  He is not a philosopher, he is a dispensing-Physician.

Medicine does not attempt to encapsulate TRUTH: it makes you WELL.

To sum up, I think we must not MIX the points of view of:

(1.) from the Relative; and (2.) from the Absolute.

That's a laxity and post-modern smear-tactic that causes troublesome 
misunderstandings in "Zen" discussions.  I think for you it is a laxity here (I 
don't believe you are a deconstructionist).

In technical terms, the POV's of Madhyamika and Yogacara are separate and 
accurate.  They are true to themselves and true to their subject.

Just don't pit one of them against the other, because they are not opposed, and 
they are already in fact best of Friends.  They are both trying to be helpful.  
It's up to the reader/practitioner to allow them.

But this requires keeping the mind straightened and the viewpoints clearly 
before the mind, never mixing them.  Try that, and see what happens.  ;-)

You cannot do THEM a dis-service; but mixing them will ruin your Understanding, 
even if you may have a strong practice.

If there is any "philosophy" of Zen, it is the marriage of these two.  But they 
ARE two, not One.

With wishes!,

--Joe

PS  Pat Hawk Roshi used to say, "There is no LOST TIME in the Dharma."  He also 
urged us to wake up "NOW!" (emphasis his).

> Edgar Owen <edgarowen@...> wrote:
>
> Bill,
> 
> "waste your life is relative". It's a false judgement.
>
> In reality nothing is "wasted".


 

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