Bill,

That's right Suresh. Bill is saying and I agree it's the guilt and worry that 
is the attachment, not the act itself..

Aw, get your hands back on the keyboard Bill! Naughty, naughty boy!
:-)

Edgar



On Oct 24, 2012, at 9:26 PM, Bill! wrote:

> Suresh,
> 
> First of all zen is not a religion. Zen is concerned with dissolving 
> illusions and revealing Buddha Nature. The concept of spirituality is an 
> illusion so any attachments you have to spirituality should be dissolved. One 
> way to do that and the best way I know is zazen (zen meditation).
> 
> Second of all feelings of sexual arousal are not illusions. They are bodily 
> functions, the same as hunger, thirst, weariness, etc... These are not 
> something you need to avoid, nor are they 'bad'. What you do need to avoid is 
> forming or reinforcing ATTACHMENTS to them.
> 
> What do you do when you're hungry, thirsty or sleepy? You eat, drink or sleep 
> - but you don't have to eat or drink or sleep IMMEDIATELY when you first feel 
> these things. You are able (presumably)to postpone their fulfillment to a 
> time when that is appropriate. It's the same with sexual desires. Postpone 
> their fulfillment to a time when it is more appropriate, or if that is just 
> not possible then masturbate.
> 
> If you think masturbation is 'bad' or 'dirty' or for some other reason should 
> be 'avoided', then that is an attachment you have to some 'moral' code that 
> you should work to dissolve - through zazen.
> 
> ...Bill! 
> 
> --- In [email protected], SURESH JAGADEESAN <varamtha@...> wrote:
> >
> > Dear Bill
> > 
> > Even though I talk more on spiritual, I still have sex feeling, how to over
> > come this? Especially when I am alone, especially on office tours in Hotel
> > rooms I like to watch at least few minutes porn on net. Now it is reduced a
> > great extent, but at least for 5 minutes I watch and then I got fed up and
> > read some thing else. Can you all advise me how to avoid this?
> > 
> > Best wishes
> > Suresh
> >
> 
> 

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