http://thedorjeshugdengroup.wordpress.com/2012/03/27/sogyal-rinpoche-and-the-silence-of-the-tibetan-buddhist-community-and-the-dalai-lama/ This is quite recent. The text is long and involves many aspects, including Dalai Lama's 'Qualification Test' for the ritual I qouted but was disbilieved by Edgar. Enjoy reading at least part of it. Anthony
________________________________ From: Anthony Wu <[email protected]> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, 25 October 2012, 5:13 Subject: Re: [Zen] Why Meditate? Bill!, When you meet Sogyal Rinpoche, please ask him whether he really realizes a status 'free of all cares and concerns' when he is doing a sexual union with a girl. Also important to ask how much he charges for learning the technique from him. Anthony ________________________________ From: Bill! <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, 24 October 2012, 20:15 Subject: Re: [Zen] Why Meditate? Edgar,I'll mention that to Sogyal Rinpoche if I ever meet him. I think he's still alive, and about my age too!...Bill!--- In mailto:Zen_Forum%40yahoogroups.com, Edgar Owen <edgarowen@...> wrote:>> Bill,> > "waste your life is relative". It's a false judgement. In reality nothing is "wasted".> > Edgar> > > > On Oct 24, 2012, at 4:31 AM, Bill! wrote:> > > Why Meditate? Sogyal Rinpoche writes: "Generally we waste our lives, distracted from our true selves, in endless activity; meditation, on the other hand, is the way to bring us back to ourselves, where we can really experience and taste our full being, beyond all habitual patterns. Our lives are lived in intense and anxious struggle, in a swirl of speed and aggression, in competing, grasping, possessing, and achieving, forever burdening ourselves with extraneous activities and preoccupations. > > > > Meditation is the exact opposite. To meditate is to make a complete break with how we "normally" operate, for it is a state free of all cares and concerns, in which there is no competition, no desire to possess or grasp at anything, no intense and anxious struggle, and no hunger to achieve: an ambitionless state where there is neither acceptance nor rejection, neither hope nor fear, a state in which we slowly begin to release all those emotions and concepts that have imprisoned us into the space of natural simplicity." --The Tibetan Book of Living and Dying pages 58-59> > > >>
