Bill!,
 
When you meet Sogyal Rinpoche, please ask him whether he really realizes a 
status 'free of all cares and concerns' when he is doing a sexual union with a 
girl. Also important to ask how much he charges for learning the technique from 
him.
 
Anthony


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From: Bill! <[email protected]>
To: [email protected] 
Sent: Wednesday, 24 October 2012, 20:15
Subject: Re: [Zen] Why Meditate?

  
Edgar,

I'll mention that to Sogyal Rinpoche if I ever meet him. I think he's still 
alive, and about my age too!

...Bill!

--- In mailto:Zen_Forum%40yahoogroups.com, Edgar Owen <edgarowen@...> wrote:
>
> Bill,
> 
> "waste your life is relative". It's a false judgement. In reality nothing is 
> "wasted".
> 
> Edgar
> 
> 
> 
> On Oct 24, 2012, at 4:31 AM, Bill! wrote:
> 
> > Why Meditate? Sogyal Rinpoche writes: "Generally we waste our lives, 
> > distracted from our true selves, in endless activity; meditation, on the 
> > other hand, is the way to bring us back to ourselves, where we can really 
> > experience and taste our full being, beyond all habitual patterns. Our 
> > lives are lived in intense and anxious struggle, in a swirl of speed and 
> > aggression, in competing, grasping, possessing, and achieving, forever 
> > burdening ourselves with extraneous activities and preoccupations. 
> > 
> > Meditation is the exact opposite. To meditate is to make a complete break 
> > with how we "normally" operate, for it is a state free of all cares and 
> > concerns, in which there is no competition, no desire to possess or grasp 
> > at anything, no intense and anxious struggle, and no hunger to achieve: an 
> > ambitionless state where there is neither acceptance nor rejection, neither 
> > hope nor fear, a state in which we slowly begin to release all those 
> > emotions and concepts that have imprisoned us into the space of natural 
> > simplicity." --The Tibetan Book of Living and Dying pages 58-59
> > 
> >
>


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