Hongyeongsoo,
>does a door-post lack anything? Well, you've just answered your own question by asking me and not the door-post. >more than enough awakened persons have stated, "Awakening chooses you"; not the other way around. That's only one side of the dualistic coin (tariki = outside help; other power). The other side is of the coin is Jiriki (Awakening brought about by one's own self power/effort). They're not mutually exclusive, btw. > No conditions. You could say that Buddha Nature is the Unconditioned, but what prevents a person in a coma from becoming Awakened in this very moment? >"beyond intellect into intuition and awareness"? have you been there? Who hasn't been there? Who isn't there now? Even when you're in the middle of a grievous argument your awareness of being doesn't disappear. >or are you just speculating? What do you think? Mike ________________________________ From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, 25 October 2012, 19:34 Subject: Re: [Zen] original zen does a door-post lack anything? more than enough awakened persons have stated, "Awakening chooses you"; not the other way around. No conditions. "beyond intellect into intuition and awareness"? have you been there? or are you just speculating? hongyeongsoo "zazen is good for nothing" On 10/24/12, mike brown <[email protected]> wrote: > In Edgar's defence, try telling a door-post, or a one day old baby, or a > person in a coma - "Just This" - and see if they Awaken. So the intellect is > needed to both live and set the conditions for awakening, but toreally live > we have to go beyond the intellect into intuition and awareness. 2 plus 2 = > 4. But what does 4 equal? > > Mike > > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Joe <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Wednesday, 24 October 2012, 23:26 > Subject: Re: [Zen] original zen > > > > Group, & Edgar, > > I did my level best to draw Edgar out, but to Noah Veil. > > I inscribe my Gatha in sorrow, with regret and apology to all. > > To Edgar: > -- ----- > Stubbornness does not Compassion show; > Nor Self-Protectiveness quicken the Slow. > One-up-man-ship > Did never steal THIS show. > > Generosity and consideration > Are a far more wholesome ration. > But Clarity, Honesty, and help, > Come not from a whelp. > > To raise a point and then depart > Is the misplaced throwing of a dart. > To live to lie another day, > is the cellulose Philosophy of a bale of Hay. > > --J. Guo-Xiang Tennen M. > >> Edgar Owen <edgarowen@...> wrote: >> >> REALITY, THE WORLD OF FORMS, as I just said! > > >
