Mike, And if he didn't but claimed he did?
Edgar On Nov 22, 2012, at 8:44 AM, mike brown wrote: > > Edgar, > > Maybe he did, maybe he didn't. I'm more concerned with other things - like > how his students conduct themselves. > > From: Edgar Owen <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Thursday, 22 November 2012, 13:35 > Subject: Re: [Zen] the zen spirit > > > Mike, > > What's your answer and why are you afraid to tell us? > > EDgar > > > > On Nov 22, 2012, at 8:34 AM, mike brown wrote: > >> >> >> >Do you believe any human being could subsist only on yam leaves and rice >> >for 6 years or do you agree with me it's simply impossible? >> >> And the new Donald Trump.. >> >> >> From: Edgar Owen <[email protected]> >> To: [email protected] >> Sent: Thursday, 22 November 2012, 13:07 >> Subject: Re: [Zen] the zen spirit >> >> >> Merle, >> >> OK, please answer a simple question and we will see. :-) >> >> Do you believe any human being could subsist only on yam leaves and rice for >> 6 years or do you agree with me it's simply impossible? >> >> The fate of your immortal soul and entry into the Buddhahood realm rests on >> a correct and honest answer to this simple question! >> :-) >> >> I challenge everyone on this group who is at all interested in the truth and >> who understands that belief in falsehood is illusion and thus that truth is >> essential to realization to give us THEIR answer to this question. >> >> >> >> Edgar >> >> >> >> On Nov 22, 2012, at 1:44 AM, Merle Lester wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> >>> edgar..what do you take me for?..a fool..merle >>> >>> >>> Merle, >>> >>> Get real and use your brain Merle! It's not the number of calories but the >>> necessary nutrients for life are missing. >>> >>> Hot water? Well I like that myself (I usually add several spices and >>> sometimes lemon juice) but I hope you don't think anyone can subsist on it? >>> >>> Edgar >>> >>> >>> >>> On Nov 20, 2012, at 5:22 PM, Merle Lester wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> because he did no heavy labour all day he needed less food... >>>> how long did he live?... >>>> plain hot water is great!... >>>> does not believe in the principles of nutrition and you just ran with >>>> that joe?.. >>>> what?... >>>> where is your zen spirit?. >>>> .merle >>>> >>>> >>>> Anyone who tries to convince you he lived on wild yam leaves and rice for >>>> 6 years begins to sound like the oriental typical guru putting one over on >>>> gullible disciples. >>>> >>>> How much did you pay him total for 'enlightening' you? >>>> >>>> Edgar >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Nov 20, 2012, at 1:45 PM, Joe wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Edgar, >>>>> >>>>> Negative. >>>>> >>>>> I suggest a reading of Ch'an Master Sheng's autobiography. >>>>> >>>>> When he taught us, he would often urge us to eat "properly" in our daily >>>>> lives as we practice. But he added that he "does not believe in the >>>>> principles of nutrition". That was always very interesting to me, but I >>>>> never questioned him in detail about what he believed (or followed) >>>>> instead. I was already a vegetarian before I met him. >>>>> >>>>> On the veracity of his story of his cultivating the "Taiwan wild mountain >>>>> potato", I had no reason to doubt him. He mentioned that this potato is >>>>> different from what we call potatoes in the West. And I suspect it is not >>>>> related to our Solanaceous plants, which I think are only indigenous to >>>>> S. Amer., and not Asia. So the leaves of his plants may have been >>>>> differently nutritious, indeed!, compared with those of our Deadly >>>>> Nightshades. >>>>> >>>>> In fact, it is a type of Yam. >>>>> >>>>> I must assume that he also had Tea; maybe he did not mention it because >>>>> it's like an Englishman taking tea "for granted" as a commodity, except >>>>> more so!, for a Chinese! ;-) >>>>> >>>>> But, ...he taught us on Retreat to drink plain hot water, and we had urns >>>>> of it: I personally called this "Sheng Yen Tea". So, maybe he did not >>>>> have any tea at all during his 6-year retreat. It's possible that he may >>>>> have found Ginseng root on the mountain, however, too. >>>>> >>>>> He mentions the Yam potato leaves several times in his auto-bio, and in >>>>> fact, there is an entire chapter (Chapt. 11) there, called "Wild Potato >>>>> Leaves"... . >>>>> >>>>> For your reading, here is the reference to Sheng Yen's best-known >>>>> autobiography in English. The book is quite clear about his diet on the >>>>> mountain: >>>>> >>>>> Sheng Yen; FOOTPRINTS IN THE SNOW; THE AUTOBIOGRAPHY OF A CHINESE >>>>> BUDDHIST MONK, 2008, Doubleday. >>>>> >>>>> You can also see the Amazon page: >>>>> >>>>> http://www.amazon.com/Footprints-Snow-Autobiography-Chinese-Buddhist/dp/B003JTHRT6/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1353436592&sr=8-3&keywords=footprints+in+the+snow >>>>> >>>>> Best, >>>>> >>>>> --Joe >>>>> >>>>> > Edgar Owen <edgarowen@...> wrote: >>>>> > >>>>> > I suggest you use the same investigative intelligence you used to >>>>> > debunk the hurricane Sandy photos to debunk your teacher's story. >>>>> > >>>>> > No human being could live on only wild potato leaves and rice for 6 >>>>> > years. That's quite obvious. >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> > > > > >
